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11-22-2017, 05:15 PM
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....more accurate. If someone doesn't play for 6 months, it's almost guaranteed that he will be placed outside the top 10. Djokovic and Murray, as soon as they are healthy, they will be semi-finalists at Grand Slams. Translations, they should be still top 4 players (or at least top 6) in the world if they were top 2 top players in the world 6 months ago. It's not like they have been losing badly for the past 6 months, or absent for the past 2 years.
Who agree that the ATP ranking calculation needs to be fixed to reflect the actual ability/chances of winning for players.
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11-22-2017, 05:53 PM
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so then you think that a player should be given a pass if they are out of the tour for a few weeks/month? why? the rankings are based on actual play, no play, no rank. what is so difficult to understand about that?
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11-22-2017, 07:20 PM
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Do you really think that Busta should be higher ranked than Murray and Djokovic? If there is a tournament next week. You would bet your own money against Djokovic in favor of Busta? That's my point!
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11-22-2017, 08:04 PM
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if they are out, they are not earning points, thus they will fall in the standings. part of the nature of the sport. just like a few years ago kyle busch broke his leg at daytona and was out for a number of weeks. why should he maintain his points position at the time just because he hadnt run any races while he was out. granted he went on to win a number of races, and qualify for the chase, and even won the championship. but lets say that busch was out for 20 races in the season, should nascar have held a spot for him in the chase just because he got back to racing during the season? these guys have to earn their positions all the time. if they are not playing, they cant earn their position now can they?
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12-10-2017, 03:36 AM
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Leave the ranking system as it is imo.
If anything, ranking points should be lost more rapidly than they are now. (ie on 12 months worth of points accumulated).
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12-10-2017, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek41
Leave the ranking system as it is imo.
If anything, ranking points should be lost more rapidly than they are now. (ie on 12 months worth of points accumulated).
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But the current point system is not reflective of players' true ability. |
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12-10-2017, 01:28 PM
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But the current point system is not reflective of players' true ability.
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it doesnt matter. one can be the greatest player in the world, but if they dont play, why should they remain at the top of the standings? richard petty has won seven championships, 200 races in the same series, and he hasnt raced since 1992, should he be at the top of the nascar standings? dale earnhardt sr was also one of the best, should he still top the nascar standings, even though he is dead?
my point here is that you are not just given anything because you are good, or even great. you have to EARN your position ALL the time. |
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12-10-2017, 03:27 PM
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it doesnt matter. one can be the greatest player in the world, but if they dont play, why should they remain at the top of the standings? richard petty has won seven championships, 200 races in the same series, and he hasnt raced since 1992, should he be at the top of the nascar standings? dale earnhardt sr was also one of the best, should he still top the nascar standings, even though he is dead?
my point here is that you are not just given anything because you are good, or even great. you have to EARN your position ALL the time.
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That's exactly my point. It is not like Djokovic has not played in 2016, or at all in 2017. |
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12-10-2017, 04:44 PM
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That's exactly my point. It is not like Djokovic has not played in 2016, or at all in 2017.
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ok then we can go to ANY nascar season, and look at many of the top drivers who were running well at the beginning of the season, and got injured and couldnt race for some time, should they have been able to come back at the same point in the championship standings, even though they didnt race for a few weeks?
my answer is NO. they didnt EARN any points during that time. and that is the same with the guy you are defending. he was out for a few weeks, but he didnt play any games, so he has no record of EARNING points, why should he get a pass when others dont?
if they have to EARN points to maintain the position in the standings, then if they dont earn any points, why should they maintain their points standing? |
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12-17-2017, 07:35 AM
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But the current point system is not reflective of players' true ability.
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You won't find a better system.
This one is clear and unpartial. |
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