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Old 10-03-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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[quote=grampaTom;56321775]This opens the door for big money fans (boosters) like Phil Knight at Oregon to legally pay top prospects to come and play at their chosen school. (I believe there has always been under the counter activity doing the same).

Top players' agents will call around to the boosters to get the best deal for their student athlete clients.

There is potential to significantly change the top 10 in NCAA football if teams like Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State etc cannot outbid Oregon, Notre Dame, USC, Stanford (or even SMU).

Fortuitous that this is occurring in conjunction with the 'transfer portal' opportunity for student athletes to easily move from team A to team B.

Maybe the new Championship trophy will have the inscription: "Best team money can buy".


NCAA is in a real pickle here. Eventually student athletes are going to (appropriately, I believe) be paid for playing.[/QUOTE]

What has become the rule by the state of Calif, may end up being the compromise, that prevents the day college athletes are payed a salary by their schools. When talking about being payed to play the question becomes; who gets paid (all athletes, or just the one's that play the sports that make money) and how much do they get paid?
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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This opens the door for big money fans (boosters) like Phil Knight at Oregon to legally pay top prospects to come and play at their chosen school. (I believe there has always been under the counter activity doing the same).

Top players' agents will call around to the boosters to get the best deal for their student athlete clients.

There is potential to significantly change the top 10 in NCAA football if teams like Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State etc cannot outbid Oregon, Notre Dame, USC, Stanford (or even SMU).

Fortuitous that this is occurring in conjunction with the 'transfer portal' opportunity for student athletes to easily move from team A to team B.

Maybe the new Championship trophy will have the inscription: "Best team money can buy".


NCAA is in a real pickle here. Eventually student athletes are going to (appropriately, I believe) be paid for playing.[/QUOTE]

What has become the rule by the state of Calif, may end up being the compromise, that prevents the day college athletes are payed a salary by their schools. When talking about being payed to play the question becomes; who gets payed (all athletes, or just the one's that play the sports that make money) and how much do they get payed?
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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It is all about California getting its hands on more TAX DOLLARS! I don't believe for a second the governor cares about college athletes. The only thing politicians care about is creating more revenue streams.
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:53 PM
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This is a good thing. Why shouldn't an athlete get paid for their special skills? The NCAA can make money off their skills. If there is company that wants to pay an athlete to promote their product they should get paid.
My nephew is a D2 baseball pitcher with a partial scholarship. Because of NCAA rules, he could not take a job as a pitching instructor at a baseball academy during last summer making $25/hr. Instead, he took a fast food job make $10/hr. How is that fair? That extra $15/hour would have helped him pay for school. If he was a scholarship musician he could get paid giving music lessons and playing in a wedding band and his scholarship would never be in jeopardy. If he was a scholarship student in any course of study, he would be EXPECTED to get a job in his field of study. I doubt my nephew will ever get paid to play baseball, but he might get paid to coach.

This is just the first step as many other states are also headed down this road. Forcing teenagers to sign onerous 1 year contracts without representation needs to be changed. The model of making money off free labor while limiting labor's ability to make money needs to disappear.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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It is all about California getting its hands on more TAX DOLLARS! I don't believe for a second the governor cares about college athletes. The only thing politicians care about is creating more revenue streams.
Bingo.

Before it was hidden under the rug.

Now it will be able to seen as ordinary income, and taxed at California rates.

What will be interesting to see is if more states adopt this and then the no-tax states get better talent.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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Scholarships are like non-refundable tax credits against your outstanding balance. You can get a full ride, but never any money back. The authorization to pay athletes in cash will just make legal what has been occurring under the table, or in alternative forms, for so long. It's about time.

I'm a non-collegiate athlete, and still I believe many student athletes sacrifice hours after school to play sports (hopefully reducing the balance of student loans in the process) in lieu of working a part time job and earning taxable cash.

The number of student athletes who go on to play pro sports is roughly the number of college grads who will go on to make VP or above at a company. (Don't count banks and other places with title inflation) The reward is great, but the odds that you will otherwise receive $0 in your pocket are pretty high. We can't all be #1. Pay them SOMETHING.

Good for them.
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So like the NFL then?



Is college football supposed to be some kind of pure "for the love of the sport" activity? That went out of the window as soon as academics started taking second place to sporting prowess when accepting students.
I agree with this. The fact that many universities have decided to lower the test/IQ scoring for certain races while raising the test/IQ scores of other races are done intentionally so they can get in as many elite athletes into their schools. They try to hide behind affirmative action, but I have seen a Black co worker fight the system when the universities denied his son a scholarship despite him being at genius level (he plans on becoming a doctor) and turn around and give it to the star quarterback who makes the guy from the Blind Side look like a rocket scientist. In the end, his son still went to Columbia, thanks to the company sponsoring him, but either way, it's still messed up, and scary, because statistics show in about 10 years from now, we will be seeing a major shortage of doctors, and if universities would rather award scholarships to athletics over something we need in society like doctors, architectures, research scientists, etc, we will have a problem in a decade or so.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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The NCAA blinked. They had to really.
So if you are a standout QB at Alabama you might expect to make a nice pile of money from jersey sales (or whatever else their agents figure out to make them money).
If you are an interior lineman at Duke --- well, good luck.

Players from high profile schools in states with big population (USC for example) will do better than players from sparsely populated states like N Dakota or Iowa.
This will make it much easier for schools like USC or Texas to recruit the top rated players -- really any team with a big alumni/booster base.
So, good times for Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama.....
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:58 AM
 
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The NCAA blinked. They had to really.
So if you are a standout QB at Alabama you might expect to make a nice pile of money from jersey sales (or whatever else their agents figure out to make them money).
If you are an interior lineman at Duke --- well, good luck.

No different than it's always been really, in the long run. The standout QB was going to be making mega-millions the next year when he turned pro and the average lineman was going to play a few more years, get a degree, then get a job selling insurance. If the QB can make money in college maybe he'll stick around an extra year or two.
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