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Old 08-26-2021, 06:17 AM
 
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Well, ALL countries in the world officially rank medal counts by gold, so does IOC. USA is the only country in the world who does not do that.
It has pros and cons. People can always check both gold and total.
Its interesting that for China if they include the Chinese territory of Hong Kong they would have most Gold medals in the world. But China ranks pretty low per capita in terms of Gold or other medals the US not doing much better either. Instead smaller countries mostly in the EU seems to get much higher per capita medal count.


I be curious whether Olympians would need to learn the local practices and culture before heading into a country. Japan seem to be one of those places where there are many unique practices i.e bowing and a number of other etiquette which may be dazzle people from all over the world. Including leaving shoes at the genkan, not wearing slippers on the tatami, and toilet slippers. And the ways to use the bath or shower. I be curious whether Japanese practices/rules apply to those athletes in the Olympic villages as well. Interestingly they were given cardboard bed.
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:57 AM
 
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Including leaving shoes at the genkan, not wearing slippers on the tatami, and toilet slippers. And the ways to use the bath or shower. I be curious whether Japanese practices/rules apply to those athletes in the Olympic villages as well. Interestingly they were given cardboard bed.
Shoes off at the door is standard in houses and hotel rooms, so that was probably expected. They may well have provided toilet slippers, but the Olympic village buildings surely did not have tatami or o-furo (the Japanese-style soaker tubs). I stayed in hotels in Japan, and they had regular floors and showers. I only saw tatami in private homes and one ryokan (traditional inn) where I spent a night. And, sadly, although my friends had o-furo, I never actually used it.
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Old 08-26-2021, 09:01 AM
 
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Its interesting that for China if they include the Chinese territory of Hong Kong they would have most Gold medals in the world. But China ranks pretty low per capita in terms of Gold or other medals the US not doing much better either. Instead smaller countries mostly in the EU seems to get much higher per capita medal count.


I be curious whether Olympians would need to learn the local practices and culture before heading into a country. Japan seem to be one of those places where there are many unique practices i.e bowing and a number of other etiquette which may be dazzle people from all over the world. Including leaving shoes at the genkan, not wearing slippers on the tatami, and toilet slippers. And the ways to use the bath or shower. I be curious whether Japanese practices/rules apply to those athletes in the Olympic villages as well. Interestingly they were given cardboard bed.

How did nations rank per capita in the medals count? I can't imagine America did that bad. We're like a quarter the size of China and got more medals than the,m
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:53 PM
 
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Shoes off at the door is standard in houses and hotel rooms, so that was probably expected. They may well have provided toilet slippers, but the Olympic village buildings surely did not have tatami or o-furo (the Japanese-style soaker tubs). I stayed in hotels in Japan, and they had regular floors and showers. I only saw tatami in private homes and one ryokan (traditional inn) where I spent a night. And, sadly, although my friends had o-furo, I never actually used it.
I be curious whether Olympic sleeping accommodations seem to mimic western or international style than Japanese style. There was controversy they used cardboard beds. I am guessing may be that the Japanese originally planned to use floor fultons for the athletes to sleep on https://media1.picsearch.com/is?Vta9...VSE&height=227 but the IOC likely objected as many athletes may not sleep well and that could affect performance the next day, despite how its likely the norm in many households, hostels, dorms, and ryokans in JP. Thus they added cardboard beds haphazardly. Especially how the budget situation in Japan is very bad this particular year due to a year delay of COVID and the spectator ban(it appears 20billion maybe US dollars "not Yen" lost). I be curious whether toilet slippers are used though. And whether the rooms have Genkans aka the lower area where outdoor items including shoes, umbrellas, jackets are kept.

I noticed that in Japan Western style hotels seems to be not too different to their counterpart anyways else in the world except that service is better. They may have slippers for the room. Though they are unlikely to have Genkans where people are expected to remove shoes, on most rooms staff wear their shoes in too. Though their bathrooms may be a bit different. And beds are smaller than their counterparts especially in North America. Though Japanese service attitude should prevail and honored guests are not expect to tip in return. I be curious whether Olympic villages are built more to a western style format or Japanese style. And how much athletes representing their country are expected to know the host country's social norms. I.e in Japan this means learning some greetings in Japanese and bowing out of respect.

Its interesting how much host countries and the IOC have to give to strike a balance between local practices and International standards every time an Olympic game takes place in a different country.
For example I still remember how China back in 2008 originally only installed those traditional eastern squat type toilets for all communal/public toilet facilities at Olympic venues as thats the norm across the country but the IOC and other international representatives insisted they install sit down throne toilets as well. Especially with so many world leaders attending. I always curious how much local culture Olympians experience if they solely stay on Olympics facilities and not go into the neighborhoods which is a petty this time due to COVID restrictions placed on the athletes compared to normal olympics. I am sure many people whether they be athletes, family, spectator, or business owners in Japan would wish the Olympics would come at a future date when they be able to truely experience the true Japanese hospitality.


Though I still believe local Japanese people will still frown upon seeing some athletes all covered in Tattoos. Though I guess many of them won't be admitted to onsens anyways and the IOC and home countries are highly restrictive of their movements this time. But I be curious how it would be different if COVID wasn't a thing.
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Old 08-26-2021, 08:28 PM
 
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I be curious whether Olympic sleeping accommodations seem to mimic western or international style than Japanese style. There was controversy they used cardboard beds. I am guessing may be that the Japanese originally planned to use floor futons for the athletes to sleep on https://media1.picsearch.com/is?Vta9...VSE&height=227 but the IOC likely objected as many athletes may not sleep well and that could affect performance the next day, despite how its likely the norm in many households, hostels, dorms, and ryokans in JP. Thus they added cardboard beds haphazardly.
It would be interesting to find out, but I can also say that when I went to Japan in the 1980s, all the young people I stayed with (teens-20s) slept in beds whether in their own homes or in a school dormitory. Hotels also had beds, unless it was a specific traditional Japanese inn (ryokan). Some of the older people did sleep on futons, and a couple of times I was given a futon because it's very convenient to be able to pull one of these out for a guest, and not to have an extra bed around all the time. They were always very concerned that I would be comfortable on a futon (which I was! but I have never minded sleeping on the floor.)

The Japanese are very aware that most non-Japanese sleep in beds. I think it's highly doubtful that they originally planned to give all the Olympic athletes futons.
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