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Old 09-27-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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Okay, so it sounds like it's not unreasonable to get a fwd drive vehicle with good winter tires for the winter in the Branson area. I found a honda fit I can afford and have been recommended Blizzak ws80 tires to put on it. What about studs? Can anybody recommend what they would use for winter tires in this area? Thanks again.
The Honda Fit is a fine car and there are plenty driving around the Ozarks. I have a family member with one in rural Wisconsin who drives everywhere all year round. If one in 100 around here ever get snow tires I would be shocked. If you were to mount Blizzaks you would get around in snow better than 95% of all vehicles on the road.

If you don't like Subarus, try and find an Acura with the sh-awd system. It is as good or better than the Subaru, Mercedes, and Audi systems.

Studs? I haven't seen studs on tires in 40 years and metal studs are illegal in Missouri April 1 to October 30.

Before there was such a thing as awd, and when 4X4s were very rare as well, we got around all winter every winter quite well. One thing that has changed, and changed dramatically, is the width of the tires. Tires today are so wide that they "float" on the snow. Common Chevy's and Ford's back then wore the modern equivalent of 75 or 80 series tires. Now, even economy cars carry 60 series which distributes the weight of the car over a much larger footprint and making it harder for the tread to "bite".
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Old 09-28-2016, 07:39 AM
 
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The Honda Fit is a fine car and there are plenty driving around the Ozarks. I have a family member with one in rural Wisconsin who drives everywhere all year round. If one in 100 around here ever get snow tires I would be shocked. If you were to mount Blizzaks you would get around in snow better than 95% of all vehicles on the road.

If you don't like Subarus, try and find an Acura with the sh-awd system. It is as good or better than the Subaru, Mercedes, and Audi systems.

Studs? I haven't seen studs on tires in 40 years and metal studs are illegal in Missouri April 1 to October 30.

Before there was such a thing as awd, and when 4X4s were very rare as well, we got around all winter every winter quite well. One thing that has changed, and changed dramatically, is the width of the tires. Tires today are so wide that they "float" on the snow. Common Chevy's and Ford's back then wore the modern equivalent of 75 or 80 series tires. Now, even economy cars carry 60 series which distributes the weight of the car over a much larger footprint and making it harder for the tread to "bite".
That's great to hear Fits aren't uncommon in the Ozarks. I've been set on getting a Fit for a while and didn't want to have to go back to the drawing board. I will definitely get Blizzaks put on the car. I'll look at the awd Acura as well and see if I can find one within my budget.

I've also been told that, contrary to what most people think, that the smaller the tire the better the traction and larger tires are actually worse for traction. What width or size would you recommend for the winter tires? I was looking at Blizzak ws80, but I'm just learning about all this stuff and am not sure if that indicates a size or just model type. Thanks.
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Old 09-28-2016, 07:59 AM
 
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As far as traction is concerned, wide tires are to narrow tires as shoes are to sleds. To improve grip it is necessary to get more weight on less area. This issue of straight light traction on slippery surfaces is quite different than cornering traction on dry pavement. This is why there are "summer" and "winter" tires. The popular "all season" tires simply try and meet both demands at a reasonable level; they have gotten pretty good at it too.

You really have to consider the total tire design. If all other factors are equal, a narrow tire will perform better in snow than a wide one. But all other factors are never equal. If you have to choose between a top quality snow tire in, say, a 65 series profile, and a low quality 70 series, go with quality every time.
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Old 09-28-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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Ok thanks, so it sounds like the number indicates the narrowness of the tire? So ideally I would want to look for a lower number (narrower), but at the same time high quality winter tire, like maybe a Blizzak ws60 instead of ws80 for example?
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Old 09-28-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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Any Blizzak that fits your car will be more than good enough. The "WS60" and "WS80" are model numbers, not a size or profile. The different models are made for different kinds of cars or trucks - small economy car, large sedan, suv, light truck, etc. There is likely only one model made for most cars.

You will want to buy the size recommended for your particular car. This information is usually found on the driver's door frame.

If you are interested in more information about tire sizes, see How to Read Tire Sizes | eHow .
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Old 09-28-2016, 07:36 PM
 
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Thanks for the clarification. On the website it looks like you can put in what car you have and the tire is selected for you, but I'll review the information on the car as well for sizes. Whew, I thought I was going to have to spend a bunch more money to get AWD, but I think I will be fine with the Fit and the Blizzaks. All the locals are telling me as long as I'm careful and pay attention to forecasts, shouldn't be a major problem...hopefully.
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