Moving to St. George - advice needed (Garden: casinos, restaurants)

[forsheamountain]

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[CCS414]

1. I think you can find something to rent for 6 months.

2. Internet is very capable IMO.

Originally Posted by dcisive

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but for those that have been living under a rock. You folks are going to be running OUT of water.

I've only been in the area for a few years but I came from Phoenix where that same stupid bs is repeated all the time. Again, I cant speak for St. George but the desert surrounding Phoenix has lots and lots and lots of groundwater available. And this does not count all the ground water that really isnt available for use because it's on reservation land which we could purchase albeit at a heavy price I'm sure. Do you really think all these desert southwest cities are just going to be vacated and left empty? Billions of dollars of infrastructure and housing just left to be taken back by the element ala some doomsday movie? If it comes down to it, civil infrastructure can be expanded to get water from other parts of the region.

[CCS414]

Originally Posted by COcheesehead

We weekend occasionally in St George and it is surrounded by beauty. One of our favorite restaurants is Xetava Gardens near Kayenta and for breakfast, Bear Paw downtown.
Traffic can be bad and the popular trails are busy. Zion is over loved, but there are so many other things to do, if you are willing to seek.

Meh, it's all outdoorsy type stuff. I'm a mountain biker so I'm pleased as punch with the area but if you're not into that kind of thing St. George can be very very boring.

[motormaker]

Originally Posted by CCS414

1. I think you can find something to rent for 6 months.

2. Internet is very capable IMO.

I've only been in the area for a few years but I came from Phoenix where that same stupid bs is repeated all the time. Again, I cant speak for St. George but the desert surrounding Phoenix has lots and lots and lots of groundwater available. And this does not count all the ground water that really isnt available for use because it's on reservation land which we could purchase albeit at a heavy price I'm sure. Do you really think all these desert southwest cities are just going to be vacated and left empty? Billions of dollars of infrastructure and housing just left to be taken back by the element ala some doomsday movie? If it comes down to it, civil infrastructure can be expanded to get water from other parts of the region.

Why are the reservation folks having to drive or use water haul services for water.

https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2017/...n-reservation/

[hertzian56]

Reservations, like the navajo one just don't have infrastructure that's it. They are skimmed by the leaders from a huge chunk of that fed money they get. If they could give thier pride a break and hire non-native experts and pay them standard rates they could have decent cities and plenty of water. The Navajo Generating Station near Page is an example, although that's now gone because "green".



Also the res system doesn't work, no one owns anything because everyone does. So you can't really get anything done there. One native tried to grow LEGAL hemp farms for cbd(I'm sure there was other stuff too) on the navajo res and was run out of it, there was more to it than that but that was the gist of it. Oh and this navajo who had chinese business partners never bothered to hire natives it was chinese from CA. He was paying local native farmers to lease their land though. Only natives get hired on res and it costs them a lot of missed progress. Nothing to do with water availability.

[COcheesehead]

Originally Posted by CCS414

Meh, it's all outdoorsy type stuff. I'm a mountain biker so I'm pleased as punch with the area but if you're not into that kind of thing St. George can be very very boring.

People don’t move to St G for the culture, they move for the nature.

[barkerboy191]

St. George is a desert with pretty red rocks. A coworker retired there and I visited him many times. After playing several rounds of golf in 108 degrees weather, I decided not to move there. The beer has almost zero alcohol due to Mormon restrictions. My friend would drive to Mesquite once a month to load up on liquor. Nice place to visit though.

[markg91359]

Originally Posted by hertzian56

Reservations, like the navajo one just don't have infrastructure that's it. They are skimmed by the leaders from a huge chunk of that fed money they get. If they could give thier pride a break and hire non-native experts and pay them standard rates they could have decent cities and plenty of water. The Navajo Generating Station near Page is an example, although that's now gone because "green".



Also the res system doesn't work, no one owns anything because everyone does. So you can't really get anything done there. One native tried to grow LEGAL hemp farms for cbd(I'm sure there was other stuff too) on the navajo res and was run out of it, there was more to it than that but that was the gist of it. Oh and this navajo who had chinese business partners never bothered to hire natives it was chinese from CA. He was paying local native farmers to lease their land though. Only natives get hired on res and it costs them a lot of missed progress. Nothing to do with water availability.

There may be some truth to that. However, the Indians need to be the ones to decide that for themselves. I am against a bunch of white people in Congress or wherever making those changes because we think that is what would be best for them.

[CCS414]

Originally Posted by COcheesehead

People don’t move to St G for the culture, they move for the nature.

I forgot too that if you enjoy tossing your money down the drain then the casinos in Mesquite are only 45min away. The food in the mesquite casinos sucks big time though, so for a better dining experience you'll need to go to Vegas, which is only about 2hrs.

[forsheamountain]

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