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Old 12-09-2020, 09:02 AM
 
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I'm looking at moving from Minnesota.........How long have you been in Utah?
How's the biking and hiking...?

thanks

Mark
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Old 12-10-2020, 06:42 AM
 
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Who settled the area and who moved in later on? You don't like Mormons? Leave Utah.
Some tried that and some failed. Remember Mountain Meadows?
https://utah.com/mormon/mountain-meadows


BACK ON SUBJECT of the OP.
I do not live in St. George but camped there a lot and have friends who live there. So can't actually speak about the city, but if into hiking in that area, black widow spiders, coyotes, and rattle snakes (great basin most prolific from my experience) can easily be avoided. Just listen and be careful when moving about. And be careful if walking a dog (if you have one), they tend to want to investigate the rattle sound...not good.

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Old 12-10-2020, 06:59 AM
 
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I'm looking at moving from Minnesota.........How long have you been in Utah?
How's the biking and hiking...?

thanks

Mark
If you are talking mountain trails for biking; look at Moab area (SE Utah).
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Old 12-10-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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These comments have been great but besides the black bug, roach, scorpion & ant issues in the St. George area, how often are snakes seen? Do they get inside homes? Do you have to constantly worry about them on your patios?
The snakes are out there. A friend is an ER doc and has treated many, many snake bites over the course of his career. He says that in every single case, 100%, the victim was bothering or attempting to handle the snake.
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Old 12-10-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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The snakes are out there. A friend is an ER doc and has treated many, many snake bites over the course of his career. He says that in every single case, 100%, the victim was bothering or attempting to handle the snake.
And alcohol was involved.
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Old 12-11-2020, 08:04 PM
 
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Typical Utah thread (no offense sadiemae62).
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Old 12-16-2020, 06:58 PM
 
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People need to educate themselves on snakes. The vast majority of them are harmless, and virtually none of them want anything to do with humans (Cobras in India and Mambas in Africa might be a different matter). Obviously, rattlers need to be treated with great respect. Question: do Southern Utah veterinarians recommend dogs be immunized against rattlers? I'm pretty sure that's common practice in Arizona, but don't know about Utah. I've never seen one myself.

I was hiking in the Wasatch range just east of Layton, UT about a decade ago, and almost stepped on a very large, very dark (black?) snake stretched completely across the path; I couldn't see its head or tail. I moved back and stomped my foot a couple of times, kicking a little dirt onto it, and it moved off the trail, but I didn't see a rattle on its tail, I still don't know what it was. But it was big, thicker than most garden hoses. Watch your step, LOL.

I'm not a big fan of spiders (especially widows or recluses), but scorpions are what I'm most "paranoid" about, I worked at a desert location south of Phoenix for a week or so once, and the day after the exterminator came, the bathroom (maybe two or three stalls) had the little translucent ones all around the bottom of the walls (dead). One of the mechanics told me, "Never reach inside a box of nuts or bolts, always take it down, look inside it, and THEN reach in. Sounded like the voice of experience.
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Old 12-16-2020, 09:03 PM
 
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I'd question whether 100% of snakebite cases are people trying to handle them.

I see a lot of snakes in the summer (3 in one week is my high count) - partly as I am outdoors a lot and keep my eyes open. Genuinely afraid - have seen Cobra (India) and some other weird snakes (Africa) to fear them. Despite that - I try to be outside though avoid night hiking in case I see it too late.

I know from some dog owners that there is rattler training for the dogs in SLC. I would be surprised if the immunization were not an option.
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Old 12-17-2020, 06:13 PM
 
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I'd question whether 100% of snakebite cases are people trying to handle them.

I see a lot of snakes in the summer (3 in one week is my high count) - partly as I am outdoors a lot and keep my eyes open. Genuinely afraid - have seen Cobra (India) and some other weird snakes (Africa) to fear them. Despite that - I try to be outside though avoid night hiking in case I see it too late.

I know from some dog owners that there is rattler training for the dogs in SLC. I would be surprised if the immunization were not an option.
What I said was that my friend said 100% of the bites that he treated were from messing with them. And this over a 30+ year career as ER doc in Utah. But perhaps you're right, cause he hasn't seen 100% of all snake bites.
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Old 03-02-2021, 08:41 AM
 
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Default and another way to look at it

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Who settled the area and who moved in later on? You don't like Mormons? Leave Utah.
Settled Utah? I thought there were Utes that lived there for many years before europeans came in . Settle to me just means live. So if you mean they were driven out of their homeland so europeans could live there then thats colonization or invasion of a foreign nature. Kind of like whats still going on today called Immigration,both legal or not.
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