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Old 01-26-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Houston TX
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If you could plop a gorgeous, dense, interesting city into the sun belt I might consider it (though the notion that you can be outside all year round is kind of off base -- most folks I know down there sit in their air conditioned house, car or office all summer) but there are no cities in that chunk of the country I find particularly pleasing.

I liked Dallas more than I thought I would, but I still found it lacking that gritty edge that I so love about the midwest and east coast and it's just so so so spread out. You really can't even describe it's spread-out-ness. It's to a level I don't think I could have ever believed.
There's a bunch of small cities around LA that are lovely. Ojai, Ventura, Oxnard are all leisurely, wonderful places.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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My knowledge of California is relatively small, but I wasn't really talking about small cities anyway. More like cities comparable to St. Louis.

And you couldn't pay me to move to California.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Houston TX
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My bad, I thought you were around the retirement age somehow, which is why I recommended those cities to you.

Anyways I'd give half my life to move to Cali at this instant.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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I thought you were around the retirement age somehow
As soon as my super sophisticated and well-thought out plan to win the Powerball comes to pass, I will be.
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Old 01-26-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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My knowledge of California is relatively small, but I wasn't really talking about small cities anyway. More like cities comparable to St. Louis.

And you couldn't pay me to move to California.
Right, who would want to live in LA, San Diego, or San Francisco when they could live in Kansas City.

In regards to the article, I agree wholeheartedly. I'd much rather move to St. Louis or Chicago than anywhere in the Sun Belt.

-25, well-educated, 90-95% income percentile
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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My knowledge of California is relatively small, but I wasn't really talking about small cities anyway. More like cities comparable to St. Louis.

And you couldn't pay me to move to California.
Which is a shame. Its a great place to live. Most people only know California from what they see on TV. Its nothing like it. The area welcomes transplants. If you are from the midwest or east coast and have any sort of surfing skills many locals will take you in and show you a good time.

The economy has forced home prices to be more reasonable.
The economy for better or worse has become more entrepreneurial. If you have the skills and ambition you WILL make it. You will be forced to stay current with new technologies. The days of entitlement and living off a corporate teat are over.

Southern California is very hard to pin down. Many urban areas surrounded by rural areas.
San Diego is very much like Saint Louis (except with a very active nightlife) or any mid-large east coast city (albeit with Palm Trees, Sunshine and Beaches).

LA is harder to define. It is a spread out mish-mash of neighborhoods, independent cities and villages. Its urban clusters may or may not be within city limits. Like St. Louis, downtown LA is pretty sleepy. But communities such as Brentwood, Westlake, Hollywood/West Hollywood, Century City and others provide a very rich urban scene.

I live in Orange County. Yes it is full of tract homes. But many cities also have downtown areas and villages that provide enough culture, activities and entertainment to keep anyone amused.
My home is in the Harbor section of Huntington Beach. I can walk to the beach and many other shopping and entertainment centers. within 5 miles I can be in 5 distinct downtown areas. I have a large nature reserve outside my door.
Within a short 15 minute drive I can be in Anaheim (Disney, Angels, Ducks - all within walking distance of each other).
OC is not for people that like to stay up late partying. The Surf Culture rules and most clubs start shutting down around midnight. If you ever get to OC, it is essential that you hang at Blackies and Mutt Lynches on the Beach on the Newport Peninsula.

if you want to talk about nature and rural areas take a hike through the Santa Ana Mountains.

And contrary to popular belief, we do have four seasons in Southern California. Everyday in the winter months, I look at snow covered mountains. I've gone rowing in the morning with 70 degree weather and then headed to the ski slopes less than 1.5 hours away. This december was just plain east coast crappy, but many east coasters said it felt "Christmasy".

I just got back from a 30 mile bike ride along the beach and ready to start work. Life is good.
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Ya know, i've always wanted to go to San Diego, but haven't had the chance to make the trip yet. My stepfather is from the Pacific Northwest so we've spent tons of time in Seattle, Portland, British Columbia, and i've got family in San Francisco, Oakland, Fresno, and Los Angeles which has allowed me to spend time in all of those cities as well. I was never a fan of L.A. but always did love San Fran (despite it ALWAYS feeling cold because of the breeze off the bay).

And i've always been jealous of having the ability to have multiple different climates all within a very short drive. Once again, my biggest thing about living in a location that has a moderate year long climate would be selling my daily driven vehicle, and using the motorcycles for transportation. However, i don't know if i could deal with knowing i'd never get a state tax return
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Old 01-26-2011, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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And i've always been jealous of having the ability to have multiple different climates all within a very short drive. Once again, my biggest thing about living in a location that has a moderate year long climate would be selling my daily driven vehicle, and using the motorcycles for transportation.
it still rains here and when it does it gets very crappy and dangerous. You will regret selling the car for about 50 days each year.
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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Like Illinois, I just couldn't see myself buying property in any state with so many budget problems right now, especially as it becomes more clear that any federal help is unlikely.

I have no problem with either coast really, I just like being a midwesterner. And if I wanted to replicate my urban lifestyle in all but a very few examples I'd have to spend a lot more money to make that happen -- even with the collapse in housing prices.
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Old 10-01-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: New Mexico via Ohio via Indiana
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Cheap housing, great hospitals, acclaimed colleges, great theatre and sports, stuff to see and do. A no-brainer to me.
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