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Old 03-02-2011, 11:17 AM
Location: The City of Shoes and Booze
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I was google street viewing Cincinnati today and saw a whole bunch of newly built rowhomes, nothing unusual about rowhomes in Cincinnati, until I realized they were mixed income housing and thought why can't this be the way we build the Near North of St. Louis (especially carr square and columbus square). These homes are built in an urban form and fit into the Cincinnati housing vernacular very well (imo) and the same could be done for St. Louis instead of that suburban wasteland which is proposed. Just wanted to know what you guys think.

Cincinnati's West End
Derrick Turnbow Ave.
Betton St.
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:59 PM
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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Interesting, but i'd be most interested to see what the need, desire would be for a neighborhood like that would be. I did notice that much like areas of the Northside that going further north out of the neighbhood reveals some pretty "shady" looking areas (borded up windows, vacant businesses, people pushing shopping carts). While the area is neat, and has some potential, i'd be very curious to see how it looks after 10 or 15 years. As time goes on, buildings tend to weather, and what was once a decent looking, new development ends up looking like a shell of it's former self once the lower income residents can no longer afford to maintain the property.

End result of that situation is that the medium and upper income residents in the area will begin to move out when their property prices start slipping because of the condition of the home next door (attached in this case) and they don't want to see their investment become worth less than the day the bought it. Those without the ability to move out will stay, and as the prices begin to come down in the complex the new residents are in the same boat as the current (low wealth) residents too....
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Old 03-02-2011, 03:23 PM
Location: The City of Shoes and Booze
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You do make a lot of valid points and I too would like to see what that area looks like in time. From what I read about the City West project is that the area has seen improvement and they are also recreating the neighborhood as it once was (don't know what it used to look like).

When I was looking at these homes I said I would live here, but I'm sorta jealous as I know this isn't the way St. Louis's north neighborhoods will look if McKee's plan goes through. If the Cincinnati development fails later down the road at least they really tried to make a urban neighborhood becuase I know that won't be the case for the Near North.
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