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Old 03-21-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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^I so didn't intend for this to start some sort of Dallas vs. St. Louis post, so I hope we don't have to spin around in circles on this issue, but since you asked:

Education: I meant of the collegial variety. For a city of its size Dallas is completely lacking in a top-tier school -- and really has few decent mid-tier options as well.

Park space: Dallas' crown jewel park -- Fair Park -- was a fairly unimpressive experience. I couldn't believe how small it was for such a major park, and while I readily admit Art Deco is not my favorite architecural style, Fair Park's version seemed particularly uninspiring. I know they're planning to build park space along the river -- that seems a desperately needed project and I'm sure it will be lovely if and when it's ever completed. I should note I have a similar complaint about Chicago -- their top-tier parks -- Millenium and Lincoln -- are stunning, but neighborhood parks can feel few and far between and that always bothered me.

And to your other point, while it's clear Dallas has made great cultural strides, they're simply not a cultural hub as compared to their similarly sized counterparts. I mean when KC is building a bigger, more expensive and more architecturally significant performing arts center then Dallas, I think there's clearly something to be said there.
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Old 03-21-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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St. Louis is definitely up there, no doubt about that.

I'd give the most underrated city crown to Oakland, CA.
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Old 03-21-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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what determines a beta world class city?
Global city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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While I like St. Louis a lot more due to history and overall planning, Dallas is a beta world city on par with Copenhagen, Boston, Oslo, Helsinki and Berlin.

St. Louis is currently not ranked as a global city, though it has the potential to get on this list quickly.
Dallas on par with Copenhagen and Berlin?

LOL you must be joking.
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Old 04-04-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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St. Louis does get a bad rap. Some of it is deserved and some isn't. But to try and label St. Louis as a world class city is absurd. New York, London, Paris, Rome, Tokyo, etc... St. Louis is nowhere near what could be called a world class city.
thank you. St. Louis is nice to visit but I wouldn't want to live there... hmm, too late it seems
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Old 04-04-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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Dallas is the 4th or 5th biggest economic center in the US. There's nothing from St Louis that can compare to that. It is a world class city. St Louis is slowly opening up to IT and data centers and Dallas is already a major player in this space.

St Louis itself isn't doing bad with Scottrade, Monsanto and a few other s having their operation centers here but compare those to Texas Instruments, Ericsson etc and you'll see the gulf between the two cities.
true, dallas beats st. louis in almost every way
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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Default Most underrated

I would say Pittsburgh.
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Old 04-04-2011, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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true, dallas beats st. louis in almost every way
Oh yay, another STL basher pops up.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:57 PM
 
Location: St Louis
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true, dallas beats st. louis in almost every way
Totally incorrect
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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If you've never actually been to Dallas I can see why you'd think so.
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