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Old 06-23-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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Sounds more negative than positive to me. The writer comes off as smug and condescending towards a fine city, and seems like she never leaves the Chesterfield city limits. The city she describes is very different from the St. Louis I live in.
It starts out very negative, but than turns positive.

But, half of it was she moved to St. Louis at a probably much older age, and now has children as well. When you are married and move to a city as a middle aged person, of course it's not easy to make friends all over the place. It's the kids that changed her, as than she had connections or reasons to make friends.
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Old 06-23-2013, 11:57 PM
 
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Ever read The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen? It's a good book, but kind of a slam on St. Louis. Jon lived in Webster Groves (or so it's been said) but I guess the Big Apple has grown on the Oprah acclaimed bestseller.

I thought the article was pretty positive. I related to a lot of it, but of course I am one of those middle aged parents with kids and I go to bed at 10 most nights, so that doesn't make me the least bit defensive. Getting non-plussed for a Super Bowl party sounds kind of odd-- she must not have promoted the event very well.

Plus, have you ever looked at NYC city data forum? There is lot of swagger but also a ton of remorse in some of the posts-- people disillusioned and stressed out by astronomical rents and (when in the burbs) depressingly long commutes. I know it is a blast for people in their 20s earning good salaries, and for others earning beaucoup Wall Street dollars, but for most people there, when the biological clock starts ticking and they are worried about not earning enough money to pay for a $600k starter house in Jersey, or $800k for a starter house in Westchester county, places where they know they will always be struggling to keep up with the joneses and probably never get ahead, all for the privelege of spending 2 hours and 20 minutes per day on a train, places like St. Louis can start to seem like a good idea.
Yes, yes and yes. The above mentioned points are the exact reason my wife and I left Los Angeles. We are now happy and love our life in St. Louis. There are trade-offs everywhere, but as you get older you realize quality of life is more important than lifestyle.
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