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Old 03-17-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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Hello... is there anyone out there that has moved to St. Louis from the Pacific NW? We currently live in Gig Harbor, WA and love it here. But... my husband is being told he may have to move to St. Louis to support a special program. We just know nothing about the area. Have heard that it is really muggy in the summer. We are in our 50's and no kids at home. Looking in the $400,000.00 range for houses. Any suggestions would be great.
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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I'd bet there's a good chunk of people in STL who've lived in Seattle due to Boeing being a major employer in both Seattle and STL. It seems there's lots of internal movement within the company. I think the hardest part would be the lack of waterfront. Rivers just aren't the same.
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:27 PM
 
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Hello... is there anyone out there that has moved to St. Louis from the Pacific NW? We currently live in Gig Harbor, WA and love it here. But... my husband is being told he may have to move to St. Louis to support a special program. We just know nothing about the area. Have heard that it is really muggy in the summer. We are in our 50's and no kids at home. Looking in the $400,000.00 range for houses. Any suggestions would be great.

Since school districts aren't an issue, $400,000 can put you in a really nice home in the city of STL, for example in the Shaw neighborhood:
3643 Castleman Ave, Saint Louis, MO 63110 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®

If you want to be in a close-to-the-city "suburb" there's my neck of the woods, University City. Here's an example:
7200 Stanford Ave, University City, MO 63130 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®

If you like suburbia, there's a lot of places in the western suburbs you can look at for 400K or less:
14933 Conway Rd, Chesterfield, MO 63017 - Home For Sale and Real Estate Listing - realtor.com®

What kind of life style do you desire? City, suburb, a little bit of land? Big house (over 2,000 sf)? Small?

What amenities do you want to have nearby?

Cultural activities? Sports?

The STL area has a lot of housing options in your budget.
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:22 PM
 
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Since school districts aren't an issue, $400,000 can put you in a really nice home in the city of STL,

What kind of life style do you desire? City, suburb, a little bit of land? Big house (over 2,000 sf)? Small?

What amenities do you want to have nearby?

Cultural activities? Sports?

The STL area has a lot of housing options in your budget.
Agree with this completely. You can add to that loft and condo-style living in areas like Downtown, the CWE, and Lafayette Square; older suburbs like Kirkwood, Webster, and Edwardsville with small town central business districts. A traditional newer suburb just about anywhere in the metro.

It definitely comes down to yard requirements, square footage requirements, commute requirements, and the preference to walk vs. drive to local amenities.

I knew someone who moved to STL from Seattle for his wife's medical school. They bought a house in University City and liked the area enough, but ultimately they ended up moving back to Seattle. They had two young kids, both had work opportunities in Seattle, and it was "home" to them, after all. I don't know that they ever really loved STL, but they did like it enough to invest 5 years of their lives here.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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Thanks everyone for your input. I also got a few suggestions from friends. We live in a 3,000sf house now... but trying to decide if we will keep our house here and then rent in STL until we are sure. We have 3 dogs... so definitely need a yard. Plus we have always had a nice big yard... so would still want that.

What about the weather? We heard that it might be muggy in the summer. And... my husband was surprised that people still smoke in restaurants there. Is that true everywhere in the area?
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:28 PM
 
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Smoking is banned in restaurants in most of the area. If most of the establishment's revenue is from booze (forget what the threshold is), smoking is still allowed. Also allowed in casinos. I think St Charles County remains the exception where smoking is allowed in restaurants--you wouldn't miss out on much IMO if you skipped the St Charles restaurant scene :x

Yes, its humid in STL. Spring and fall are wonderful, winter usually isn't terrible with this year being an exception.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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Summer is relatively hot and humid, but I've also found that the 'hot' period is generally quite short before the weather returns to pleasant again. It's definitely not the Southern level of humidity and mugginess. I find it tolerable Spring and Fall are GORGEOUS here.

Also, like billiken said, smoking isn't allowed in restaurants unless they are predominantly a bar. I actually never dine over in St. Charles so I would have no clue what their policies are (there are plenty of places on the St. Louis side to suit every culinary desire!)

If you're looking for a sizable house with a yard, in a nice area, I would actually suggest the suburbs such as Creve Coeur, Maryland Heights, Chesterfield, etc... or even Kirkwood, Webster Groves (more small town / village feeling) as opposed to the city.

St. Louis City has some amazing housing stock but yard space is usually limited in the denser areas, especially if they've put a garage backing onto the alleyway. For 3 dogs it probably wouldn't be ideal.

Will your husband be working at Boeing? That would also help narrow down options as far as commute time for him

Good Luck and I hope you love it here! It's not Seattle (I'm a big fan of Seattle), but St. Louis really does have a lot going for it if you give it a chance
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:21 PM
 
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Thanks again for even more info! Yes, my husband will be working for Boeing. It would be a relocate. He has been there a several times and usually stays near the office and the Lambert airport... so I guess that is the St. Charles area? And, that is where he was eating and noticed the smoking. It's so funny how intrusive it is... even thought maybe 10-15 years ago it was just part of dining life.
Here is another point he brought up. He said that several people in the office he was working in said that they live in Illinois. What would be the reason for that? I know here in Washington near the Oregon border... people work in Portland but live across the river in Washington so they don't pay income tax. Is that the case there?
Also... we would really love to have a pool. Our summers here do not really last long enough to enjoy a pool for long. Are pools a common thing there?
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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Living in IL is more of a person preference. IL doesn't have a personal property tax on cars, but the property taxes on homes are often higher. Income tax in IL is a flat 5%; in MO there are more tiers but it doesn't take very much before your income is in the highest tier (6%). I'd say that the tax differences are not significant enough to make it a deciding factor for most people; its more of what you prefer. The IL side starts feeling more rural pretty fast. Most big businesses in the metro area are on the MO side.

Pools are not as common as you might think for a place that has pretty hot summers.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:10 PM
 
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When I first moved to St. Louis (from Australia) 8 years ago, I found it so bizarre every time I got asked "smoking or non?" whenever I entered a restaurant, since Australia had had non-smoking laws in place for years at that point.

However, all restaurants are now non-smoking. As others have said, the only exception is bars, but even some of them have gone non-smoking. I honestly don't venture over to St. Charles much so would have no clue what restaurants are doing over there. I do know that there are both smoking and non-smoking areas within the Casinos, though.

As for the Illinois side, Billiken is correct in that there is no Personal Property Tax (so you wouldn't pay tax on your vehicles, boats, etc). I think the other draw of the Illinois side is the fact that you can usually get more bang for your buck, house wise. Honestly though, the Illinois side, with the exception of areas such as Alton (I'm a huge fan of Alton) is generally flat and generally pretty ugly. It feels like a lot of suburban sprawl and not much else. Also, a lot of the cities have been hit hard by the decline in industry over the years (such as Granite City, East St. Louis, etc) and they're not pretty. There are some nicer parts, such as Belleville, Edwardsville, Collinsville, etc, however, they all feel fairly 'generic' to me. It's just personal preference. When hubby & I moved back to the St. Louis area I didn't even consider the IL side. It's not my cup of tea.

I think you'll find that a lot of people who live in St. Louis City or St. Louis County aren't big fans of the 'Illinois side' or St. Charles County. They suit some people, but they wouldn't be the first places I would recommend to somebody with your budget and coming from Seattle.

As for Swimming Pools, they do exist but they aren't as common as say, in the Southwest. When we were house hunting I think we came across 3 or 4 houses with pools, so probably 10% or so of the houses we looked at. Of course, in higher price brackets they're more prevalent. There was one house with an absolutely stunning swimming pool, but the house was way out of our price range unfortunately.

With your hubby's job near Lambert, I'd still keep my focus on Creve Coeur, Maryland Heights, and surrounding unincorporated St. Louis County. I would probably also consider Chesterfield since it's a family-oriented area and pools might be a bit more commonplace there. (Additionally, if you didn't want your own pool, some of the higher end subdivisions often have a community pool for residents. I'm assuming the HOA's in those areas would be pretty high, though.)

Also, in all of the above areas, since they're in good school districts (even though that's not an issue for you), they'll retain their value if you ever wanted to sell up and relocate back to the Pacific Northwest.

Good Luck again!
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