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View Poll Results: Which do you think is most true? (pick more than one)
The officer did not commit murder, he was in imminent danger. 84 62.69%
Police are guilty of murder and we have the RIGHT to be in the streets! 12 8.96%
In light of the volitility, a curfew is understandable. 47 35.07%
Police should wear body cameras at all times. 74 55.22%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-14-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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I've seen this mentioned many times in comments of various articles. The officer was swept away after the shooting so quickly, no one knows who he is and the police chief admitted that if the family sues the officer they will likely also sue the police department. They have every motivation to have injured his face in an attempt to justify the boy's death.

But even if you were to take the officer's story at face value, and I'm seriously doubting it now, the boy was running and three car lengths away from the officer with his hands up. He'd been shot twice already. The officer was in no danger from the boy that could possibly justify killing him.
No, the jury is going to find a way to make him guilty. They'll throw ''he was in a felony act though, shoot to kill".
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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I pray that anyone near this situation who sides with the protesters finds the courage to go out and become one of the protesters. It's scary, but you will never feel so alive. Rekindle your internal fire.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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I've seen this mentioned many times in comments of various articles. The officer was swept away after the shooting so quickly, no one knows who he is and the police chief admitted that if the family sues the officer they will likely also sue the police department. They have every motivation to have injured his face in an attempt to justify the boy's death.

But even if you were to take the officer's story at face value, and I'm seriously doubting it now, the boy was running and three car lengths away from the officer with his hands up. He'd been shot twice already. The officer was in no danger from the boy that could possibly justify killing him.
Why do cops often open fire in cases like this rather than just fire once if they feel threatened? I understand self defense, but often people are shot 20 times and most of the shots come after the suspect is obviously no longer a threat.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I've seen this mentioned many times in comments of various articles. The officer was swept away after the shooting so quickly, no one knows who he is and the police chief admitted that if the family sues the officer they will likely also sue the police department. They have every motivation to have injured his face in an attempt to justify the boy's death.

But even if you were to take the officer's story at face value, and I'm seriously doubting it now, the boy was running and three car lengths away from the officer with his hands up. He'd been shot twice already. The officer was in no danger from the boy that could possibly justify killing him.
well, just to play devil's advocate. IF Brown attempted to grab the police officer's pistol, all bets are off. who knows where he's running? is he running to get a friend who has a weapon? I dunno police protocal in that scenario, but maybe it's possible that shooting is justifiable once a person tries to take an officer's weapon. i truly don't know...
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo, where the woodbine twineth
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Who is that one guy they keep showing on the news? I see this guy everywhere, He was with the people protesting that first day and then I saw him with the news crew. Today he was at the fire department when the senator was speaking. He's about five foot five and five foot wide,easily over 300 lbs and can barely walk. He wears a blue uniform, is he a Ferguson cop?
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:46 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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I pray that anyone near this situation who sides with the protesters finds the courage to go out and become one of the protesters. It's scary, but you will never feel so alive. Rekindle your internal fire.
heck, even forming groups in other cities around the country, and protesting in public spaces.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:47 PM
 
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Why do cops often open fire in cases like this rather than just fire once if they feel threatened? I understand self defense, but often people are shot 20 times and most of the shots come after the suspect is obviously no longer a threat.
Dead suspects can't talk. The thing is, if you just shot someone and it was a big misunderstanding then there's a chance you could go to court and be proven guilty. Especially if it's a sound testimony.

But we also have too look at the fact that Mr. Brown was black. He's an animal that (according to biases in America) that must be put down because he's ''dangerous''. Apparently all black guys have zombie reflexes if shot once, they will kill you.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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Why do cops often open fire in cases like this rather than just fire once if they feel threatened? I understand self defense, but often people are shot 20 times and most of the shots come after the suspect is obviously no longer a threat.
i think people get hung up on the quantity of shots fired. you have to understand that it's not like the movies. once a police officer decides to shoot - he's shooting until he's sure the target is down. i'd say there's almost always going to be at least 4-6 shots fired by an individual officer. certainly no less than 2. when you read about the 10-20 shots, it's normally 2-3 different officers who fired multiple shots each.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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well, just to play devil's advocate. IF Brown attempted to grab the police officer's pistol, all bets are off. who knows where he's running? is he running to get a friend who has a weapon? I dunno police protocal in that scenario, but maybe it's possible that shooting is justifiable once a person tries to take an officer's weapon. i truly don't know...
Well so far all of the witnesses seem to confirm there's was a struggle. It's how that struggle happened that changes everything.
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