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View Poll Results: Which do you think is most true? (pick more than one)
The officer did not commit murder, he was in imminent danger. 84 62.69%
Police are guilty of murder and we have the RIGHT to be in the streets! 12 8.96%
In light of the volitility, a curfew is understandable. 47 35.07%
Police should wear body cameras at all times. 74 55.22%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-15-2014, 05:35 AM
 
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Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery

When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife
Yes, no doubt you've got this memorized. Blacks are also more likely to live in poverty. 35% for blacks versus 12% for whites. That is the biggest factor in crime. And the drug wars played a huge role in black incarceration rates. You're also being disingenuous by using the phrase "more likely than people of other races" because Hispanic rates are more in line with black rates than they are with white rates. And their poverty rate is 33%.

I brought the white statistic up because to the uninformed, 49% having been arrested (or 50%, as was claimed) sounds all the more stunning to people who just assume that for whites, the figure is probably down in the teens, percentage-wise, or less. But it isn't.


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There is a valid reason why police stop black males.
For walking on the street instead of the sidewalk?
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:41 AM
 
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Nice to see that a competent police force was able to diffuse the situation. Treating people with respect works.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:52 AM
 
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Do you simply dent the FBI crime statistics? Do you deny the huge crime rate among Blacks?Are you aware that 50% of Black men have been arrested by the age of 23?
90% of homicides are committed by men. Therefore all men are murderers. You should be afraid around men.
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Old 08-15-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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49%, actually. And 38% of white men have been, too.
The numbers cited are alarming for both, black and white men. I believe we need to move away from racializing the stats, and focus on why the U.S. incarcerates more people than any other nation in the world.
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Old 08-15-2014, 07:19 AM
 
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The numbers cited are alarming for both, black and white men. I believe we need to move away from racializing the stats, and focus on why the U.S. incarcerates more people than any other nation in the world.
Yeah, what the hell. The rates for white men are staggeringly high, considering there hasn't been institutional laws to prevent them from succeeding such as redlining, gerrymandering, etc. That means a little over 1 in 4 white men you meet have been arrested.
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Old 08-15-2014, 07:54 AM
 
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The numbers cited are alarming for both, black and white men. I believe we need to move away from racializing the stats, and focus on why the U.S. incarcerates more people than any other nation in the world.
He's not racializing stats - that stats are what they are. Refusing to recognize the racial realities of the stats is racializing them. We should have Holders frank discussion on race - no one wants to though.

Apparently it wasn't all tea and crumpets last night in Ferguson:

BREAKING VIDEO: Woman Shot In Ferguson – 20 YARDS FROM REPORTER | Progressives Today

but if only one person was shot (that we know of) and it wasn't fatal that's probably a good night.

Aslo- police responding to fight in McDonalds attacked with bottles and rocks:

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime...alds/14097501/

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Old 08-15-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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Darren Wilson is the officer that shot Brown, in case anyone missed
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo, where the woodbine twineth
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Darren Wilson is the officer that shot Brown, in case anyone missed
What is that video they're planning on releasing?
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery

When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife


That being said we need more Asian people in this country.

Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate


Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

  • Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
  • Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
  • Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa


There is a valid reason why police stop black males.
Oh stop it....You are being rational....
The amazing thing is our media reflexively siding with a group of people with this massive crime rate over a group of people who put their lives on the line for little pay and try to preserve order....Why the bias?
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Oh stop it....You are being rational....
The amazing thing is our media reflexively siding with a group of people with this massive crime rate over a group of people who put their lives on the line for little pay and try to preserve order....Why the bias?
Not just the media- politicians on both sides of the isle are piling on. It makes me sick.
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