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View Poll Results: Which do you think is most true? (pick more than one)
The officer did not commit murder, he was in imminent danger. 84 62.69%
Police are guilty of murder and we have the RIGHT to be in the streets! 12 8.96%
In light of the volitility, a curfew is understandable. 47 35.07%
Police should wear body cameras at all times. 74 55.22%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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First off, was anyone injured or killed?

Second off, this is going to be a disaster for North County and the region as a whole. Prepare for a NoCo exodus. North City is bad and now it's going to spread. This is horrible for our reputation nationwide as a metro area.
The exodus started decades ago. You'll find that a lot of St. Charles County residents have their roots in North County. I agree that this will probably make it worse though.

Also, it sounds like this might even hurt us internationally. One of my friends from the U.K text me and asked if we were okay, because she'd seen it on the news way over there
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:03 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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First off, was anyone injured or killed?

Second off, this is going to be a disaster for North County and the region as a whole. Prepare for a NoCo exodus. North City is bad and now it's going to spread. This is horrible for our reputation nationwide as a metro area.
P.S. Some people caught up in the riots were injured (non life threatening from what I hear), along with two police officers.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: 1950s-60s-70s-GONE
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Curfews. Initiate them.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Agreed.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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Earlier Sunday, Chief Jon Belmar of the St. Louis County Police Department said the incident started when a Ferguson officer encountered Brown and another male on the street near an apartment complex. One male pushed the officer into his police vehicle, Belmar said. The men had a struggle inside the car, Belmar said, and at some point a man — it was unclear whether it was Brown — reached for the officer's weapon. One shot was fired inside the vehicle. The fight moved outside the squad car and Brown suffered fatal gunshot wounds about 35 feet from the vehicle, Belmar said. The second person has not been arrested, and police are not sure whether he was armed.

This is what I read from a news source (no it was NOT FOX news either, it was USA Today and don't attack the messenger). Still it was tragic that the youth was shot and killed. This needs to be investigated further to determine exactly what happened. Meanwhile, the people in the neighborhood need to chill, stop rioting and stop automatically thinking this was done maliciously....
You can't fight violence with violence.

Belmar didn't give the full picture. That is what sparked the protest. The community needs to know that the case will be prosecuted properly and if criminal charges need to be filed that it's done and done right. Also they want to make sure that the situation was handled the way it should have been.

As I wrote before there are 2 sides to the story. Many times the truth is found somewhere in between.

I've heard that many looters where not from Ferguson. Many where from outside the area. The protesters along with the family and many from within the community has denounced the violent actions of last night. Their objectives are very clear.
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Old 08-11-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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A non-violent protest is one thing but those that used this incident as an excuse to loot and destroy the area become part of the problem. This does reinforce negative stereotypes and isn't good for those in the neighborhood or for the metro area. If these officers had been wearing body cams this incident would have all been documented with a clear picture of what happened.
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Old 08-11-2014, 04:41 PM
 
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..the next thing will be loud-mouthed Al Sharpton showing up to cause more commotion...
When he arrives in town, the city officials should just hand him a bill to cover the damages that the rioters caused and tell him that they'll accept cash or check.
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Old 08-11-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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When he arrives in town, the city officials should just hand him a bill to cover the damages that the rioters caused and tell him that they'll accept cash or check.
If you are writing that Sharptons presence will cause a riot?
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:00 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Stay Safe tonight, everyone...
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:09 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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My thoughts as an outside...

1. I knew lots of fellow White middle class teenagers who routinely shop lifted from stores... like all the time. The police never bothered them. Even if Brown did shop lift why the urgency for a horde of cops to chase him?

2. If he wrestled for the officer's gun I understand shooting him.... maybe once ... in the leg? 10 shots to vital areas seems pretty crazy. Again he was a shoplifting, not murder suspect

3. Having a mostly White police force never works in an area that is mostly non White... even if the force is well intended and well trained. That doesn't build trust in a country with a history of Jim Crow and de facto apartheid

4. Rioting is never good and usually harms small business owners rather than the millionaires who well create poverty and inequality. They give the good majority a bad name and undermine the cause
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