Metro East (St. Louis, Belle: rentals, lofts, condos)

[SouthCitySam]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

Belleville is experiencing some rapid white flight, much like some of the St. Louis Missouri north county suburbs have...

White flight is the legal alternative to restrictive covenants. For now at least.

[chicagobear]

Originally Posted by MUTGR

Belleville is experiencing some rapid white flight, much like some of the St. Louis Missouri north county suburbs have:


Belleville, IL Population - Census 2010 and 2000 Interactive Map, Demographics, Statistics, Quick Facts - CensusViewer

I drove around Belleville at Christmas time and it certainly seemed like a nice thriving city to me.

[RisingAurvandil]

This is an old thread, but

Originally Posted by chicagobear

I drove around Belleville at Christmas time and it certainly seemed like a nice thriving city to me.

Yes, the west end of town is still nice. Belleville's downtown is one of the nicest in the St. Louis area.

It is important to remember, though, that Belleville is 10+ miles wide. The east end of town, near IL 157 and adjacent to Signal Hill, is indeed experiencing white flight.

[Caesarstl]

Originally Posted by RisingAurvandil

This is an old thread, but



Yes, the west end of town is still nice. Belleville's downtown is one of the nicest in the St. Louis area.

It is important to remember, though, that Belleville is 10+ miles wide. The east end of town, near IL 157 and adjacent to Signal Hill, is indeed experiencing white flight.

Uhhh... you have these backwards

[RisingAurvandil]

Originally Posted by Caesarstl

Uhhh... you have these backwards

Ah, yes. Thank you for the correction!

[pgrdr]

Originally Posted by Caesarstl

Uhhh... you have these backwards

What is it that is backwards?

[PerseusVeil]

Originally Posted by pgrdr

What is it that is backwards?

Signal Hill is on the west end of Belleville and not the east end. The white flight Belleville has been seeing has primarily been from the west end (not exclusively Signal Hill either).

That being said, there are some gorgeous homes on Signal Hill Boulevard and many are massive. The west end of Belleville is also a large area, btw. It's easily the majority of down. Parts of it can be sketchy and plenty of it is also perfectly fine. A lot of the money has been shifting to places like O'Fallon and Shiloh though.

[pgrdr]

Thanks for the info. I'm moving to that area in the next month so I am trying to learn about the communities before I arrive to house hunt in a couple of weeks.

[PerseusVeil]

Originally Posted by pgrdr

Thanks for the info. I'm moving to that area in the next month so I am trying to learn about the communities before I arrive to house hunt in a couple of weeks.

I gathered form another thread you're headed to Scott. If you're trying to get to and from the base in any sort of reasonable amount of time, then the far west end of Belleville wouldn't be the best option anyway. I'd recommend closer to downtown Belleville and the east end for the best access from Belleville.

O'Fallon and Shiloh are also good options very close by, but neither has a downtown area similar to Belleville's. O'Fallon is trying to remedy that as best it can at the moment, and it's been getting a lot of investment as of it late.

Mascoutah and Lebanon are also small towns nearby that could work, depending on how small you're willing to go.

Here's a zoomed out map of the area to help put some of these places into context you've been hearing about in the various threads:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sc...!4d-89.8551818

Also, in terms of retail, Fairview Heights will become your primary big box retail/mall destination if you don't want to head all the way over to Missouri.

[pgrdr]

Thank you so much.

Can you provide some street dividing lines in Belleville for the areas I should avoid and seek out?

Thanks again for the information you have already provided.