What is really wrong with St. Louis?

[timmytimmycocopuff]

Case is in the pudding. I think it's pretty apparent that outsiders have similar experiences across the board. So how do we change it?

- Incentivize young talent who left to come back home with perks.

- Aggressive solutions to crime.

- Connect Downtown to Midtown with more and more investment

- Unite the goddam county and city.

[FrankMiller]

What aggressive solutions to crime?

[timmytimmycocopuff]

Originally Posted by FrankMiller

What aggressive solutions to crime?

https://www.city-journal.org/html/ho...ory-13197.html

higher security presence downtown.

investment in 'order' tactics like the Broken Windows program of NYC.

more lights in the city

boarded blight and construction laws (aesthetic laws)

increase cameras around downtown. believe it or not, this works wonders in Asia.

investment in youth programs and family programs

three strikes program for schools.

legalizing marijuana (yep)

using big data to pinpoint high crime clusters and increase police presence and monitoring as necessary

increase security in key development areas

allot resources to education, alongside the 3 strikes program

stricter gun policies within dense urban zones that allow for random checks. (if you can have random alcohol checks, why not guns)

i personally would prefer exile policies or strict monitoring policies for repeated offenders.

I do not condone violence against violence, nor aggressive (in the physical sense) against those who would deserve violent justice.

Good form and function is the result of good policy. When the policy has good roots and standards, good things can come about. I believe there are ways to enact strict policies where necessary until proven unnecessary.

consistent marketing and public service campaigns with clear objective metrics. example, campaigns towards 'achievement is in reach'

infill residence with immigrant programs and incentives

Humans are vulnerable to perception. If the overall perception is that things are cleaning up, people will behave as if things are cleaning up. And when a bad apple ruins the clean up, efforts to show that bad apples are not tolerated. Pride in one's home does wonders.

People are given a way out though hard work and cooperation. And if people choose to ruin their own lives, they are given that right.

IMHO obvi

[timmytimmycocopuff]

this only works though if government of STL can be unified. there are many parts to the pie. and no, fixing crime is not the only solution to making stl great again.




(no thats not a trump reference)

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by timmytimmycocopuff

https://www.city-journal.org/html/ho...ory-13197.html

higher security presence downtown.

investment in 'order' tactics like the Broken Windows program of NYC.

more lights in the city

boarded blight and construction laws (aesthetic laws)

increase cameras around downtown. believe it or not, this works wonders in Asia.

investment in youth programs and family programs

three strikes program for schools.

legalizing marijuana (yep)

using big data to pinpoint high crime clusters and increase police presence and monitoring as necessary

increase security in key development areas

allot resources to education, alongside the 3 strikes program

stricter gun policies within dense urban zones that allow for random checks. (if you can have random alcohol checks, why not guns)

i personally would prefer exile policies or strict monitoring policies for repeated offenders.

I do not condone violence against violence, nor aggressive (in the physical sense) against those who would deserve violent justice.

Good form and function is the result of good policy. When the policy has good roots and standards, good things can come about. I believe there are ways to enact strict policies where necessary until proven unnecessary.

consistent marketing and public service campaigns with clear objective metrics. example, campaigns towards 'achievement is in reach'

infill residence with immigrant programs and incentives

Humans are vulnerable to perception. If the overall perception is that things are cleaning up, people will behave as if things are cleaning up. And when a bad apple ruins the clean up, efforts to show that bad apples are not tolerated. Pride in one's home does wonders.

People are given a way out though hard work and cooperation. And if people choose to ruin their own lives, they are given that right.

IMHO obvi

"investment in 'order' tactics like the Broken Windows program of NYC."

This is politically a non-starter today - especially in New York under de Blasio, but also in St. Louis.

[FrankMiller]

Order tactics don't work, as exemplified by NYC. Also, I believe the causal relationship between lighting and low crime has been debunked. "Three strikes" laws and such are also demonstrably rubbish (https://www.aclu.org/other/10-reason...ikes-youre-out). Given that we have extremely high incarceration rates compared to even police states around the world, I'm suspicious of any crime solution that involves more enforcement: if arresting people worked, we'd already be crime-free. Cameras might work, I'm not familiar with credible data either way on those.

I would say the general theme of focusing resources on "key" areas is something that already happens. MetroLink security presence corresponds to suburban traffic, focus on central corridor as policing priority, etc.

I'm in agreement on youth investment, development, etc.

[MeetMeinSTL]

It’s been two years OP.. we need an update

[glamatomic]

Originally Posted by MeetMeinSTL

It’s been two years OP.. we need an update

He hasn't been back to this site in 2 years under his username, either. I highly doubt you'll get an update.

[kipfilet]

Beat cops and community policing have been great solutions in certain south city neighborhoods:
https://nextstl.com/2017/12/crime-st-louis-bright-spot/

I always wonder where all the cops are, given that we have one of the highest rates of officers to citizens in the country. I almost never see officers patroling.