St. Louis Mayoral Race (Republic, Memphis: crime, to live, safe)

[SouthCitySam]

No threads on this topic? Primary on the 7th and general next month.

[SouthCitySam]

Andrew Jones, Andy Karandzieff, and James Osher are the republicans. I did listen to Jones speak recently at an event. Also speaking at the event were Boyd and a surrogate for Tishaura Jones. I've heard democrat Reed speak at another event. Andrew Jones, Reed, and Boyd all well spoken. The Tishaura Jones surrogate not so much.

I agree that the democrat stranglehold on St. Louis politics needs to end but I don't think it will happen this go round. I do like Andrew Jones however from hearing him speak. He seems very reasonable and didn't appear to color everything in racial tones. The Tishaura Jones surrogate on the other hand was likely a BLM leader.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by SouthCitySam

Andrew Jones, Andy Karandzieff, and James Osher are the republicans. I did listen to Jones speak recently at an event. Also speaking at the event were Boyd and a surrogate for Tishaura Jones. I've heard democrat Reed speak at another event. Andrew Jones, Reed, and Boyd all well spoken. The Tishaura Jones surrogate not so much.

I agree that the democrat stranglehold on St. Louis politics needs to end but I don't think it will happen this go round. I do like Andrew Jones however from hearing him speak. He seems very reasonable and didn't appear to color everything in racial tones. The Tishaura Jones surrogate on the other hand was likely a BLM leader.

Are these people really Republicans, or are they simply running as a Republican in order to run against the democrat in the general election and are just as liberal as the democrat running?

[SouthCitySam]

Karandzieff and Osher are not serious republican candidates and have alternative motives for running perhaps. Jones appears to be a serious candidate that embraces republican values. But he's probably not a solid republican.

So as a republican, your choice will be to either sit out this election...again, or choose the best of the worst democrats and then hold your breath and cross your fingers in hopes that they don't screw things up even more than then they have to this point in history. For a republican to win, you really would need a Donald Trump type candidate to break up the democrat oligarchy.

[RisingAurvandil]

Unlike other major cities, our mayor has very little power due to the City's charter. And city government isn't really partisan in the traditional sense. Most issues are more about pragmatism than ideology.

The major issues in the City are not related to government, but rather, are the result a poor underclass that lacks the values necessary for a productive society.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by RisingAurvandil

Unlike other major cities, our mayor has very little power due to the City's charter. And city government isn't really partisan in the traditional sense. Most issues are more about pragmatism than ideology.

The major issues in the City are not related to government, but rather, are the result a poor underclass that lacks the values necessary for a productive society.

As much as I hate to say it, I agree with that part. Cities such as Memphis, New Orleans and Detroit all have similar problems.

Your big cities such as Los Angeles, and Chicago have problems too, but they're such huge cities that other demographic factors override the poor underclass that make the issues less severe and the cities still function.

[SouthCitySam]

The operative word is ideology. If you watched the Mayoral candidate forum, it was all about ideology. Ideology drives policy. And the democrat ideology is leftist.

[FrankMiller]

Originally Posted by RisingAurvandil

The major issues in the City are not related to government, but rather, are the result a poor underclass that lacks the values necessary for a productive society.

This is the same argument people make throughout history for every multi-generational underclass, and it always turns out to be wrong. What the poor lack is not values, it's money. Money for tuition, money for transportation, money for a safe place to study, money for peace of mind and caring for family.

If you want to fix the city, give every resident five grand a year with no strings attached. Otherwise, learn to live with poverty and the crime it incubates.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by FrankMiller

This is the same argument people make throughout history for every multi-generational underclass, and it always turns out to be wrong. What the poor lack is not values, it's money. Money for tuition, money for transportation, money for a safe place to study, money for peace of mind and caring for family.

If you want to fix the city, give every resident five grand a year with no strings attached. Otherwise, learn to live with poverty and the crime it incubates.

How many of them would blow the money on drugs though? Where do you expect this money to come from?

If you gave 5k a year to someone in a rural area that has drug problems they will likely spend the money on heroine or meth.

[FrankMiller]

Drug addiction likelihood is not related to poverty, and may even be inversely related (drugs are expensive). However, the ability to get treatment for drug addiction is dependent on wealth.