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Old 06-07-2023, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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This may be an "outside-the-box" thing to throw in here, but considering the French heritage of StL, I think in growing the city would do well to incorporate more of that, at least in a connotation sense, to "enhance the flavor" a little some. StL itself already has a certain character to it given its history; it should amplify that some more. And as another poster said, I also think StL has a bit brighter future than most think.
I agree with you sentiment. St. Louis is such a unique, beautiful city, with a great sense of place. Unfortunately, the packaging and branding is just horrible. The tourism bureau definitely gets an F. Things like beautification, landscaping, infrastructure improvements with a sense of local identity would go a long way for St. Louis. I've seen cities that as half as interesting go much further because of packaging.
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Old 03-17-2024, 09:19 AM
 
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https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/lo...3-6e3ba22008c3
The Governor believes the issue is crime. St Louise isn’t unique to this issue but crime has plagued the city for years. St Louise constantly lands on the most dangerous cities in America list. Beautiful city with lost to offer but overshadowed by crime.
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Old 03-20-2024, 06:59 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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The shrinking of any city's population isn't necessarily a sign of a city in decline. Portions of StL are definitely in decline and other portions are growing. This is normal and expected. The population has moved out to the 'burbs or away completely. This is the nature of our modern world. The trick is adjusting to it with sensible zoning laws, attracting new industries and providing infrastructure to help facilitate future growth. StL needs to adapt & plan for the on-going "honing" of it's population. As for crime . . . I have no answers there.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:28 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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St. Louis isn’t going away. But it is turning into a reasonable and comfortable city endowed with an infrastructure and built environment that other cities dream of. It sealed its fate in the 1870s when it became an unexpandable city/county and the population grew beyond its borders. It is the business and cultural core of the metro area and will stay that way. The nearly 100 recognized neighborhoods offer a wide array of housing options, each one a little different than the others.
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Old 03-20-2024, 11:02 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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It is the business and cultural core of the metro area and will stay that way.

St. Louis County is the biggest economic engine in the state and so many businesses have fled St. Louis City I do not believe it can be called the "business core" of the metro area.

Cultural core is debatable. It does have the professional teams but not many people go downtown anymore for much of anything else.
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Old 03-20-2024, 01:27 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Cultural core is debatable. It does have the professional teams but not many people go downtown anymore for much of anything else.
Their loss. Of course, much of the cultural activity and sites are not downtown. The county has next to nothing by comparison.
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Old 03-20-2024, 04:31 PM
 
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Where has the LGBTQ community been throughout all of this? It's a widely known fact our community is typically the pioneers in gentrifying well-preserved neighborhoods left to rot in "white flight" cities. Is there too much to deal with versus an LGBTQ community that has maybe largely fled to gay-friendlier regional big cities like Chicago, Dallas or Denver? I have heard there is some effort in neighborhoods like Soulard but is it not widespread enough to catch fire at this point, and/or not enough participants?
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Old 03-21-2024, 12:51 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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@ kyle19125 - Benton Park/Cherokee is very much doing what you just wrote. It is a very dynamic neighborhood/s with a very cool vibe.
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Old 04-05-2024, 03:42 PM
 
Location: St. Louis City
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The STL LGBTQIA community is likely not leaving the Grove area anytime soon. Rehab and Just Johns are the primary 3 AM licenses, and the rumor mill says the city isn't passing many of these out. So, any new bars in other areas are likely NOT to have a 3 am license. There are efforts to keep the Grove ***** friendly.
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Old 04-16-2024, 10:34 PM
 
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This says it all about the state of St Louise. It has fallen behind its peees in the Midwest like Indianapolis, Columbus, Kansas City, even Cleveland and Oklahoma City are doing better in economic and population growth. The governments in those cities are ran better and are bipartisan on numerous issues.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1110772...doom-loop/amp/

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