01-18-2010, 05:56 PM
Location: St. Louis
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My boyfriend and I just graduated and moved to the Central West End from Alabama... big change to say the least! I grew up in the St. Louis suburbs, but that was a completely different experience from living in the Central West End and I'm needin' a little social life advice.
01-18-2010, 06:32 PM
Location: Yes
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Where in CWE did you move to? My wife and I moved to CWE from Alabama two years ago (albeit a different area of Alabama than you guys - according to your profile). I'm horrible with names of places, but I know we enjoyed a few in CWE. I liked Tom's particulaly as I could go watch games there. Might want to look into Sub Zero for upscale chill. For bars and hangouts though, we mainly went to the Loop (more our style and my wife made friends at bars in that district while she worked at a bar there). My best advice is to do what we did. Just walk up and down Euclid and see what's out there. You can tell the difference between normal bars and over-the-top places. Many pubs too.
01-18-2010, 06:53 PM
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I agree that Tom's is a pretty good place to drink and unwind. Lllewelly's on McPherson is a good casual bar - great patio out back when its warm. Dressel's pub is not bad, on Euclid at Westminster. Bar Louie on Maryland seems a little bit nicer than your average dive, but is still casual and fun. Scottish Arms on Boyle is pretty cool, chill Scotch bar too. Those would be my go-to places if I lived in the CWE, and I am definitely more partial to divey, laid-back watering holes.
01-18-2010, 07:09 PM
Location: Yes
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Quote:
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zach_33
I agree that Tom's is a pretty good place to drink and unwind. Lllewelly's on McPherson is a good casual bar - great patio out back when its warm. Dressel's pub is not bad, on Euclid at Westminster. Bar Louie on Maryland seems a little bit nicer than your average dive, but is still casual and fun. Scottish Arms on Boyle is pretty cool, chill Scotch bar too. Those would be my go-to places if I lived in the CWE, and I am definitely more partial to divey, laid-back watering holes.
I'll vouch for Dressels (pub) and Bar Louie (more of a corporate feel). Both places are not bad. Never been to Scottish Arms.
I don't know the names of them, but there are definitely two "dive bars" on Euclid between W. Pine and Laclede. They'll be on the east sidewalk. Think one is "Club 34" or something? 1:30 bars, very small. Never went in either of them, but walked past a million times.
Off-topic, but definitely go to Chase Park Plaza to catch a movie. That was a great unexpected surprise for us when moving to the area. Buy a beer, sit in the quiet theater, and watch the small "big-screen".
01-18-2010, 07:40 PM
Location: St Louis
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I agree with the above. If you are looking for a dive try J&A's on Newstead. Always a good time.
01-18-2010, 07:40 PM
Location: Saint Louis, MO
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I always enjoyed late night happy hour with friends at the Drunken Fish. More upscale, but lots of delicious drinks for pretty cheap (fishbowls too!) along with cheap sushi if you're into that. I remember the first time we went, we got a round of free shots since it was our first time.
01-18-2010, 07:45 PM
Location: The City of St. Louis
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Although not located in the Central West End, my favorite hole-in-the-wall bar so far in St. Louis is Nick's Pub in Dogtown [
http://www.nickspub.info/ (http://www.nickspub.info/%5D - broken link) ]. It is maybe 2-3 miles from you, its generally packed with people ages 21 to 35 or so most weekend nights, it's really chill, and has probably 20-30 different beers on tap.
01-18-2010, 10:00 PM
Location: St. Louis
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Thanks everyone for your input. I've seen Club 34 and J&A's and I'm excited to try them both. We've also been to Llwellyn's for lunch and really enjoyed it. Where is Tom's?? And does anyone know anything about the wine and cigar shop turned bar at night?
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oscottscotto
Where in CWE did you move to? My wife and I moved to CWE from Alabama two years ago (albeit a different area of Alabama than you guys - according to your profile). I'm horrible with names of places, but I know we enjoyed a few in CWE. I liked Tom's particulaly as I could go watch games there. Might want to look into Sub Zero for upscale chill. For bars and hangouts though, we mainly went to the Loop (more our style and my wife made friends at bars in that district while she worked at a bar there). My best advice is to do what we did. Just walk up and down Euclid and see what's out there. You can tell the difference between normal bars and over-the-top places. Many pubs too.
We're on Maryland and Newstead right by the new cathedral.
01-18-2010, 10:02 PM
Location: St Louis
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Toms is at Forest Park parkway and Euclid. Right across from the hospital.
01-19-2010, 07:51 AM
Location: Clayton, MO
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I'll echo the above
Cafe Eau in the Chase is a good time.
Not the hole in the wall you're looking for but Mandarin and Sol Lounge are also a good time (more upscale clubish)
Don't forget all the bars in the Grove. Some are Gay/Lesbian and some are not... just look for the rainbows
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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