06-09-2007, 10:58 PM
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I am in KC currently. The people are incredibly nice here. But it isn't a great
area for bike trails. I have been researching Rails to Trails. It seems that
the City of Alton, IL, Granite, IL and Edwardswilles, IL all have an extensive
network of rail to trails. Can anyone give me insight about these communities. What is is like to live there? Do people in these cities generally commute to the MO side? Are they nice looking communities? Are the bike trails used often? Are the bike trails nice? I appreciate your time. I will leave
KC on Monday and head that way. I am in a traveling mode. My personal belongings are in storage out West, and I am searching for a new place to live. The sooner I find it the better, as it is very expensive paying for lodging.
I do not like big cities, but I do prefer to be near a big city. I am under the impression that the IL side of STL is flat.
Is it also much less populated than the MO side? Thanks again.
06-10-2007, 03:45 PM
Location: Carol Stream, IL
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Well, I've never lived in these places, but I've been through them on my bike doing parts of those trails you speak of. I love these trails; I'm a member of Trailnet (broken link) , which has lots of organized rides that are mostly on the Illinois side because, yes, it is flat over there for the most part. The bike trails are used quite often, but not crowded by any means of the imagination. They are well-maintained and nice to ride (some are paved and some are limestone/gravel chips, easily navigated by both road tires and mountain-bike type).
My fiancé (who has lived in STL much longer than me), tells me that Alton can be more of a party-type town (has a casino and some regionally well-known bars, as well as a college), Edwardsville also has a college, but Granite City doesn't (at least that is what I've been told--this isn't confirmed!)
Yes, many people live in IL and commute over; every morning there are traffic reports detailing the status of each bridge coming over for this very reason.
The towns are not ritzy-looking, but they are not run-down, either. They just look like nice little working-class communities, really.
The IL side is far less populated; lots of farmland over there with lots of small little communities (but I hear it is really nice to live over there for some peace and quiet!)
Hope this helps (and sorry if some of the info isn't quite right...)!
06-10-2007, 08:15 PM
Location: Illinois
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Live in Edwardsville, Great Town!
I moved to Edwardsville from Texas four years ago. Edwardsville is a great town. It is home to Southern Illinois University which is one of the largest campuses - greenspace wise - in the United States. Edwardsville is also the county seat of Madison County. Because of the University and the county seat, we have a great downtown area that has some nice shops, restaurants and bars. It has been experiencing some nice revitalization lately. The bike trails are amazing. I'm not a biker, but I have many friends that bike, run and walk the trails regularly. Because of the area's reputation of being a great biking community, we have an awesome bike store that supports the biking community so you don't have to go far for all of your biking needs. Heck, we even have a store one town over that is nothing but recumbent bikes! It is that big of an "industry" here. I don't know if you have children, but the schools in Edwardsville enjoy one of the best reputations in all of the metro-east area (that is what they call the Illinois side of suburban St. Louis. I would even venture to say that we have some of the best schools in all of the St. Louis area. In fact, Edwardsville has seen a nice influx of people from the Missouri side because of its schools. This is great for home values. We also are experiencing growth with the addition of a new grocery chain, electronics store, bookstore, craftstore and several new restaurants. But, it still has that smalltown appeal. I have a great email I can send to you with links on everything about the town from schools, to bike trails, to other things of interest. Send me a private message with your email address and I can send you the email. Good luck as you explore your options!
06-10-2007, 11:12 PM
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thank you for the replies. I used to live in Carbondale 15 years ago, and attended SIU for one semester before being required to return up North for
personal reasons. I always liked Carbondale. Isn't the main campus of SIU in
Carbondale? Is Edwardsville a branch campus, or what? How similar or dissimilar would you say Carbondale and Edwardsville? I have never been to the latter city. The former is quite hilly and wooded. I would never return to Carbondale to live because it is too
far away from everything. I really like the fact that, presumably, the
eastern side of STL is largely flat. I have been through that region quite
a few times, and it appears to be very fertile land. I am single and I do not have kids. I am 46 years old (male). I do not want to grow old in a small
isolated town. On the other hand I don't want to live in a big city.
Does Edwardsville have an isolated feeling about it? Or is it most definitely
considered a part of the metro east area? Being single I definitely want
to access to a larger population pool of available women, which is another
reason Carbondale is not a strong contender. Is there a lot of new home contruction going on in Edw? I would like to buy a house soon after moving there. I would like to PM you, but then other people who might be interested in learning about EDW wouldn't have the change to read the great information you provide. I hope to hear from you soon. I am still in KC, but
intend to depart here tomorrow. I will drive through and check out Columbia before finishing my journey in Metro East. Or I may continue on to Indiana.
(but doubtful). Thanks!
06-11-2007, 06:37 AM
Location: Illinois
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More Ed Info
Not being a "native", and having lived here for only 4 years, I don't know much about Carbondale - never been. So, I can't give you a comparison. It is rather flat here, but not "Nebraska Flat".
I would not at all consider Edwardsville remote. For example, my family loves Hockey, and we can be sitting in Scottrade Center in 30 minutes for a game. We go to Cards games, also, and again - 30 minutes and we are in the stadium. So I would by no means say you are isolated in this town. For what it is worth, within the last year we got a new Red Robin, 54th St Diner, St. Louis Bread Company, Buffalo Wild Wings, Cold Stone Creamery - just to name a few. So, it is a growing area. If you enjoy athletics at all, you MUST go and visit our new YMCA. We have one of the largest YMCA facilities in the country. It is just east on Goshen Road about 1 or so miles. You would need to get off 270 on 159, go north and turn right at the Home Depot/Quik Trip. The YMCA also continues to keep the older facility open and operating and it is great for swimming, basketball, exercise classes, and weightlifting.
SIU here is rather large. It is part of the same Carbondale SIU system. Be sure to visit their website to learn more about the University. SIUE.EDU. A very nice complement to the area and provides for good jobs.
Lots of housing available here from new construction to older, historic homes. Taxes are a little high in the metro-east. That tends to be the biggest shock for most folks. Look to pay around $4000/year for a $200k home. But, on a better note, we found insurance prices here to be quite nice compared to Texas.
For more info on bike trails, go to mcttrails.org and you can get maps, etc.
I can't post website links, so if you would like those pm me with your email address and I can shoot them over to you.
Hope this helps!
06-13-2007, 07:29 PM
Location: No city lights here
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I live in the General area -
Route 100 up the Great River road has a bike trail. It goes up past Per Marquette State Park.
06-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Location: St. Louis Missouri
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how much of a trail do you need? There are a ton of golf courses if you want to ride around them.
06-19-2007, 08:00 PM
Location: MO Ozarkian in NE Hoosierana
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06-22-2007, 10:29 AM
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Alton has the SIU school of Dentistry, Godfrey has Lewis and Clark Community College, Edwardsville has SIUE, and Yes Granite City does have South Western Illinois College.
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Well, I've never lived in these places, but I've been through them on my bike doing parts of those trails you speak of. I love these trails; I'm a member of
Trailnet , which has lots of organized rides that are mostly on the Illinois side because, yes, it is flat over there for the most part. The bike trails are used quite often, but not crowded by any means of the imagination. They are well-maintained and nice to ride (some are paved and some are limestone/gravel chips, easily navigated by both road tires and mountain-bike type).
My fiancé (who has lived in STL much longer than me), tells me that Alton can be more of a party-type town (has a casino and some regionally well-known bars, as well as a college), Edwardsville also has a college, but Granite City doesn't (at least that is what I've been told--this isn't confirmed!)
Yes, many people live in IL and commute over; every morning there are traffic reports detailing the status of each bridge coming over for this very reason.
The towns are not ritzy-looking, but they are not run-down, either. They just look like nice little working-class communities, really.
The IL side is far less populated; lots of farmland over there with lots of small little communities (but I hear it is really nice to live over there for some peace and quiet!)
Hope this helps (and sorry if some of the info isn't quite right...)!
06-22-2007, 09:00 PM
Location: Carol Stream, IL
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Thanks for the correction, e_seaborn! I'll be sure to let my fiancé know
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People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)