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These people must be out of their minds! Syracuse is DYING, the city it's in shambles. Lots of closed businesses, no one walking the streets, high crime and homelessness. It's a great place for a wknd trip but I would recommend looking elsewhere for full time living.
These people must be out of their minds! Syracuse is DYING, the city it's in shambles. Lots of closed businesses, no one walking the streets, high crime and homelessness. It's a great place for a wknd trip but I would recommend looking elsewhere for full time living.
I would hardly say Syracuse is a thriving metropolis but this is a view you can only arrive at with blinders fully on and closed.
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I am currently in NC, and have been thinking of moving to Syracuse for a few years.
Two weeks ago, I was able to spend time--basing out of a Super 8 between Syracuse and Liverpool for a few days. I went to both Chambers of Commerce and found a lot of information about the area--but it is always very refreshing and informative to find info on these forums.
I plan on returning soon for more research and info--but I won't move up without a job. I did that before when I was younger, (to Atlanta and Tampa) and I learned a lot of very valuable lessons.
I really like the vibe of the area!
Surprising enough, a lot of the people I used to know moved out of Syracuse to NC.
Live in Connecticut, but have a house 100 miles north of SYR, so we come into town a lot for dinner. SYR is sort of a 1974 time warp downtown with a few interesting old buildings amidst a worn Akron-type blue collar suburban area (with a few exceptions like Fayetteville, Manlius, Cazenovia, Skaneateles etc..). There are few pockets of charm within the city limits from it's better days, but it's not an attractive downtown. Erie Boulevard towards Dewitt has pockets that are condusive to cheap vodka in a paper bag. Reminds me of Springfield MA.
Live in Connecticut, but have a house 100 miles north of SYR, so we come into town a lot for dinner. SYR is sort of a 1974 time warp downtown with a few interesting old buildings amidst a worn Akron-type blue collar suburban area (with a few exceptions like Fayetteville, Manlius, Cazenovia, Skaneateles etc..). There are few pockets of charm within the city limits from it's better days, but it's not an attractive downtown. Erie Boulevard towards Dewitt has pockets that are condusive to cheap vodka in a paper bag. Reminds me of Springfield MA.
Much of the same could be said about the towns northeast, north, and southwest of Hartford. Nothing screams cheap vodka with a paper bag more than the pockmarked sprawl that lines the trashy commercial strips of Southington, Bristol, Manchester, Windsor, Vernon, Enfield, New Britain, Bloomfield, and West Hartford closer to the Hartford city line. The sleazy neon-red lights that illuminate much of the ubiquitous "Pilgrim City" furniture stores 24 hours a day adds a most appropriate touch.
Also, people seem to mention the same handful of suburbs and small towns, but don't think or know about places like Onondaga Hill, Marcellus, parts of the Baldwinsville area like Radisson and Timber Banks, DeWitt in the Jamesville-DeWitt SD, the Clark Hill neighborhood in Fremont(ES-M SD), much of Camillus and other suburban areas that are definitely middle class and up.
These people must be out of their minds! Syracuse is DYING, the city it's in shambles. Lots of closed businesses, no one walking the streets, high crime and homelessness. It's a great place for a wknd trip but I would recommend looking elsewhere for full time living.
No more so than most of the rest of Upstate New York. And the thing that comes to my mind, as the OP wanted to know what to say to people who have never been there, is SNOW. To people from the South and the West, that sums it up in one four-letter word. Even people in New York City seem to think there's "too much" snow in Syracuse.
I'd describe it as another dying, over-taxed, Democratically run northeastern city that has some nice points, some bad points, sections I won't go near because of crime, and sections that are okay. Probably the best point of Syracuse is because of how it's crisscrossed by interstates, you can be out in the country in as little as 15 minutes. Even though they're trying hard to screw that up for people to the south as we speak here.
Probably the biggest difference I'd note comparing to say, southern cities, is the minority population is largely concentrated in the city or close to it, there are much fewer in the surrounding suburbs and small towns.
Owning property will be a good deal more expensive due to higher taxes. However the property itself potentially will be cheaper for the same relative type of place, so it may balance out.
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