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I'm a big ugly mean looking Hispanic guy lol. My future wife is a small pretty white girl that looks as old as our kids. We live in Dewitt and have not had any problems with race issues at all. Not to mention I'm in to what most would consider "Red Neck" sports. Cars, motorsports, off roading and what not. I do get looks but then again I stand out in those crowds. I don't believe they are looking with malicious intent. And if they are it's not on a level that I can't ignore. The race issues out here are what you make them out to be. If you want them to be a problem then you'll get what you want. If you just want to enjoy your life and avoid that type of conflict you won't have a problem with doing that at all.
As far as the schools go. The only experience that I have is with our kids at JD High School and Middle School. One of our kids is white. The other one is Hispanic, black, and a bunch of other stuff lol. Nether one of them have any issues at all.
I will say this though. What you're seeing on paper seems to be more of a class issues (income levels, goals, lifestyles) than anything. There is a very big divide when it comes to that around here. Not that everyone in the good neighborhoods is rich or has high expectations. Basically I wouldn't be shocked to hear about bullies or issues in some of the poor schools. I've also seen bad attitudes from parents and students in the higher income schools toward the city schools and vice versa. This problem is deeper than race and income. It's seems to be a deep rooted history of problems. This is a long story and discussion.
Basically what I'm getting at is that if you look for a nice neighborhood to live in and a good school district to send your kids to you won't have a problem unless you or your kids act all ghetto lol. If you move into the ghetto and your act proper I'm sure you might have issue with haters. That's as cut and dry as I can get. It really doesn't have anything to do with color even though some would like to say it does.
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I just wanted to add that I just moved to the area from the midwest (Tulsa, OK) on June 1st. I spent about 4 months looking for places to live and originally looked at the FM/Dewitt area. We wanted to rent and were looking for 4 bedroom houses...and couldn't find anything. We ended up renting in the Cicero area...and we love it. Granted, I have only lived there for a month (June...and have spent the month of July in Vegas) but I have a multi-cultural family (my husband is from India...and I am from US...we have 2 kids). The North Syracuse School District from what I understand is very good but VERY big. I opted to put my kids in a very small catholic private school (which I find rather affordable compared to other private schools we have been in before) They have a 3 year old, 4 yr old and kind program...not sure if that is an option. I have to say that I have found everyone there so amazing nice and helpful. I love how everything is really only 20 mins at the most away. Cicero has Lake Oneida and a rec center, but I haven't checked it out yet, so I can't tell you much about that. If there is anything I can do to help (having just done all the research myself) let me know...but I know there are great people on here with TONS of great advice!
I'm a big ugly mean looking Hispanic guy lol. My future wife is a small pretty white girl that looks as old as our kids. We live in Dewitt and have not had any problems with race issues at all. Not to mention I'm in to what most would consider "Red Neck" sports. Cars, motorsports, off roading and what not. I do get looks but then again I stand out in those crowds. I don't believe they are looking with malicious intent. And if they are it's not on a level that I can't ignore. The race issues out here are what you make them out to be. If you want them to be a problem then you'll get what you want. If you just want to enjoy your life and avoid that type of conflict you won't have a problem with doing that at all.
As far as the schools go. The only experience that I have is with our kids at JD High School and Middle School. One of our kids is white. The other one is Hispanic, black, and a bunch of other stuff lol. Nether one of them have any issues at all.
I will say this though. What you're seeing on paper seems to be more of a class issues (income levels, goals, lifestyles) than anything. There is a very big divide when it comes to that around here. Not that everyone in the good neighborhoods is rich or has high expectations. Basically I wouldn't be shocked to hear about bullies or issues in some of the poor schools. I've also seen bad attitudes from parents and students in the higher income schools toward the city schools and vice versa. This problem is deeper than race and income. It's seems to be a deep rooted history of problems. This is a long story and discussion.
Basically what I'm getting at is that if you look for a nice neighborhood to live in and a good school district to send your kids to you won't have a problem unless you or your kids act all ghetto lol. If you move into the ghetto and your act proper I'm sure you might have issue with haters. That's as cut and dry as I can get. It really doesn't have anything to do with color even though some would like to say it does.
That's how I see things. I hope that helps.
This is a great post!
And as it happens to coincide with my thoughts on the subject I have to give it a thumbs up
My family lived in both Baldwinsville and Liverpool for a total of five years. We now live in the true rural area of northern NY. I would say all three areas are predominantly white. Where I live now is a very rural, more cows than people type of area. But as Magician stated, we aren't predominately white because the area is racist. I think its more related to the hesitancy of others to move to a place that is stereotypically thought of as redneck and racist. We are definitely redneck but not racist.
However, as Magician said, if you move into the area and are acting in an unapproachable manner (it takes a lot for me to find something unapproachable, I'm thinking of things like those cars that bounce to the beat of music, pants that hang around mid thigh, cursing, loud, belligerent behavior type of unnapproachable behavior). But if you move in and smile and say hello I'm going to bring you a pie so I can be nosy and see what you've done with the house (cause I'm sure I ran through it as a child), quiz you on your life's history, and invite you for dinner once you're settled. I'm a little overbearing like that.
I've heard the northern suburbs are a bit racist and close minded - Cicero, Liverpool.
Manlius, Fayetteville, Jamesville ... they seem to be pretty progressive.
I live in SU neighborhood. Not a problem where I am.
Where did you hear that about the Northern suburbs? You actually have some areas with some diversity in those school districts and you see interracial couples as well. I wouldn't say that it is perfect, but I don't know about the racist/close minded rep.
Also, in the North Country, the military presence from Fort Drum has brought diversity to the area. School districts like Indian River, Carthage and Watertown come to mind, with a little bit in certain small towns like Canton and Potsdam due to the colleges. Massena has a relatively decent sized Native American population as well.
ckh you bring up a good point. Fort Drum has definitely brought more diversity to the entire northern region. And it also is or economic lifeline.
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