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Old 07-31-2018, 05:30 AM
 
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Also, I think an organization like this: https://www.homehq.org or this one: https://housingvisions.org should play a part in redevelopment of properties that are on here: Home - Greater Syracuse Land Bank

I know that some properties on Butternut Street on the city’s North Side were torn down in order for newer properties to be built currently. You also have this example also Butternut that has been built as well: https://www.syracuse.com/business-ne...ss_photos.html
https://goo.gl/maps/sU1CJqezVHp (Can view earlier view to see the former brewery)

There’s also this mixed use development also at the corner of Butternut and North Townsend: Butternut Commons Syracuse & CNY | Butternut Commons Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0586...Lj_ctPW50g!2e0
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Old 08-01-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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Speaking of West Onondaga Street, these are located on there: https://saltcitycoffee.com

https://www.syracuse.com/news/index...._syracuse.html
Some history from another article: Coop Apartment

More history: West Onondaga

Given that it is located just outside of Downtown to the SW and that there are lots that could be developed or structures that could be used again for housing/businesses, it could be an area of new, mixed use, mixed income development that the mayor is looking for.

https://goo.gl/maps/YJ3SsR2aW9o

It is also not too far from University Hill as well, which is down Adams Street.
Speaking of this corridor, another idea that came to mind is for this property: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0411...7i13312!8i6656


Given that it is literally a few blocks from Downtown and is nearly a straight shot down Adams from University hill, perhaps it could revitalized as a B&B like this Brooklyn business: Akwaaba Mansion - Brooklyn, NY


I say that given the demographics of the area and its location, along with another lodging option near areas of importance in the city.


You could also open a community based/owned hotel or housing in that corridor here as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0401...7i13312!8i6656 (416 building)


Same could be done with other properties on West Onondaga like these here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0375...7i13312!8i6656 (on the left and the right)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0359...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0364...7i13312!8i6656 (?)


These properties are west of South Avenue, but interestingly enough, they aren't too far from this neighborhood if you continue down Onondaga Avenue and take a right onto Bellevue Avenue: Greater Strathmore Neighborhood Association | Weclome to City Living, Welcome to Strathmore


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strathmore,_Syracuse


Also, on West Onondaga, I'm not sure if the Rescue Mission owns this land, but at one time, it was a block of Black owned businesses(i.e.-Oasis Fish Market, Sadie's Place, etc. and there are a few mom and pop ones the next block over, as well as on the bottom floor of the coop building), but it is land adjacent to Downtown that could also be used for infill: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0427...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


There is a possibility for infill here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0407...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


as well as for another school option, as I believe this Islamic based school was in that building that is set back from the street: https://www.facebook.com/ihsanschool/


Given that there is a former bank building in front of it, it could be an extension of the school idea presented for the South Salina corridor in terms of a lower/elementary school and an upper/high school with similar educational curriculum at both. That is what the Turkish owned Syracuse Academy of Science has in terms of being a multi school entity(all of which are in former Catholic schools) and this would allow for the community to take some ownership of educational and financial institutions located within the community. When I say community, this is the area of the city I'm referring to: http://www.tomorrowsneighborhoodstoday.org/southside/


It contains both the South Salina and the majority of the West Onondaga/South Avenue corridors.
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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Speaking of this corridor, another idea that came to mind is for this property: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0411...7i13312!8i6656


Given that it is literally a few blocks from Downtown and is nearly a straight shot down Adams from University hill, perhaps it could revitalized as a B&B like this Brooklyn business: Akwaaba Mansion - Brooklyn, NY


I say that given the demographics of the area and its location, along with another lodging option near areas of importance in the city.


You could also open a community based/owned hotel or housing in that corridor here as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0401...7i13312!8i6656 (416 building)


Same could be done with other properties on West Onondaga like these here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0375...7i13312!8i6656 (on the left and the right)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0359...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0364...7i13312!8i6656 (?)


These properties are west of South Avenue, but interestingly enough, they aren't too far from this neighborhood if you continue down Onondaga Avenue and take a right onto Bellevue Avenue: Greater Strathmore Neighborhood Association | Weclome to City Living, Welcome to Strathmore


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strathmore,_Syracuse


Also, on West Onondaga, I'm not sure if the Rescue Mission owns this land, but at one time, it was a block of Black owned businesses(i.e.-Oasis Fish Market, Sadie's Place, etc. and there are a few mom and pop ones the next block over, as well as on the bottom floor of the coop building), but it is land adjacent to Downtown that could also be used for infill: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0427...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


There is a possibility for infill here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0407...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


as well as for another school option, as I believe this Islamic based school was in that building that is set back from the street: https://www.facebook.com/ihsanschool/


Given that there is a former bank building in front of it, it could be an extension of the school idea presented for the South Salina corridor in terms of a lower/elementary school and an upper/high school with similar educational curriculum at both. That is what the Turkish owned Syracuse Academy of Science has in terms of being a multi school entity(all of which are in former Catholic schools) and this would allow for the community to take some ownership of educational and financial institutions located within the community. When I say community, this is the area of the city I'm referring to: 3 Southside


It contains both the South Salina and the majority of the West Onondaga/South Avenue corridors.
Just to add to this, these properties once housed such businesses in that corridor: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0226...6!9m2!1b1!2i38 (was once a bar by the name of Gersey's)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0356...6!9m2!1b1!2i38 (was once Patterson's Meat market)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0282...6!9m2!1b1!2i38 (was once a gas station/auto shop owned by the Lemon family)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0299...6!9m2!1b1!2i38 (was where Bright Chapel AME Church was located)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0358...6!9m2!1b1!2i38 (was open until recently and was a long time establishment for decades in that space)
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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East Fayette Street is another street that comes to mind. It has seen or is seeing some development in recent years, but again has lots and older structures that could be put to use. It is very close to Downtown and University Hill and runs perpendicular to the East Genesee Street Business District/Corridor: http://university-hill.com/wp-conten...-Brochure4.pdf

This historic church on the left, the former People's AME Zion Church, has plans for a culinary school, but could also be used in a capacity similar to this church in Ontario: Nazrey AME Church | Ontario Museums

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0485...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

It also could be used for other functions such as a place for young children in the community to learn about STEM opportunities via mentorship with those from Upstate Medical Center and connected with the nearby Community Folk Art center. The STEM aspect comes to mind given that this woman's father was the pastor of that church at one time and her profession, as well as being a graduate of what is now that medical center: Fraser, Sarah Loguen (1850-1933) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed The family's home was located at this corner: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0470...6!9m2!1b1!2i38 and given that the home isn't there, the former church could serve as a historical location that honors the family and the history in the neighborhood. Her father: Loguen, Jermain Wesley (1813-1872) | The Black Past: Remembered and Reclaimed

Home info: The Freedom Trail in Syracuse and Onondaga County, NY

If you go further down the street, you will notice that it has great potential for infill, especially given the nearby apartments that have been or are being built for students. https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0484...7i13312!8i6656

That will allow for activity, as well as commercial investment in that area of the city, that would serve students and long time residents of the neighborhood.

It would also be nice if this development would come to pass as well: Loguen Crossing | COR Development Company, LLC

Where it would be located: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0496...6!9m2!1b1!2i38
More in terms of the area of the East Side in between East Genesee and Erie Boulevard East, there may be potential for development in the Loguen Park area(Cherry Street/Lexington Ave./Columbus Street, etc. and what you could rebrand the area as): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0469...7i13312!8i6656


I believe that the Richmark building is for sale and appears to have been a former theater. It could be nice to have someone buy it and use it for a venue again for the arts or for second run/independent films. It could also be used for say a culturally based film festival or for events as well. The former bank could be used as another community based bank/credit branch as well. This is also a part of the Richmark property: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0478...7i13312!8i6656 and could be converted to housing and/or for commercial/industry use.


At Columbus and East Fayette could use some infill and sprucing up as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0483...7i13312!8i6656


It is a well travelled intersection in between the Boulevard and Westcott Street and could connect the two better.


There's also this building: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0492...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


It would be nice to make it a mixed use building that is connected to the Boulevard or at least cleared out to make it more visible once it is developed. It would also be nice if East Washington ran uninterrupted in that area as well.


There is potential for infill and revitalization of buildings near the public/lower income apartment housing. Boys and Girls Club, Birnbaum Funeral Home and the Syracuse Community Health Center(East Side location) further east: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0481...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0481...7i13312!8i6656


It was once a highly Jewish area(I believe initially housed quite a few Jewish war vets and their families) that became mixed around and stable/solid for a decade or so, before it declined. Once had the former Snow Flake Bakery and Patrician's Limo Service. Ironically, if you go about a block south you have more stability on Allen, Westmoreland and Ellis: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0464...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


This is a newer housing development nearby: VanKeuren Square - Housing Visions


Just to illustrate the Jewish presence that was in that area, this former Jewish War Veterans building has been revitalized into condos across East Genesee Street at the entrance to the Westcott Business District/neighborhood: Babcock-Shattuck House Restoration | UNPA
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0455...7i13312!8i6656
across the street was a former Jewish Community Center, but houses the Syracuse Peace Council(still has the Star of David at the top front of the building: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0455...7i13312!8i6656
Syracuse Peace Council


If you go further east past Croly you enter the working/middle class(becomes more middle class the further east you go) Salt Springs neighborhood, which is generally stable in its SFH neighborhoods, but also has a concentration of some older apartments in its northern portion towards Erie Boulevard as well. It has been an area of the city where a good portion of the Black middle class has lived in for decades(since the 1970's or so) and is predominantly Black, but still has a mix of people. https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0485...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

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Old 08-07-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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Another area that comes to mind in terms of businesses is this area of Park Street at/around Oak Street not too far from Schiller Park and the Sedgwick neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0631...7i13312!8i6656


You have Riley's, which is a popular neighborhood restaurant and Sedgwick is a middle to upper middle class area, where if the right businesses were in place, would have a very viable consumer nearby. SEDGWICK FARM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION


http://www.syracuse.ny.us/Parks/schillerPark.html


This area of Park Street at East division has potential to be revitalized as well and is in the heart of where many refugee/immigrant families, but also some long time Italian families/residents still live as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0645...7i13312!8i6656


Same at Park & Pond a few blocks north: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0658...7i13312!8i6656


Further north on Park is the Washington square area, which is a block away from Wolf Street, which was mentioned earlier and could create a connection for that side of town: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0701...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


It is also not too far from the previously mentioned Destiny USA, NBT Bank stadium, the Regional Market and the Transportation Center(bus and train station). https://www.destinyusa.com/


NBT Bank Stadium » Onondaga County Parks


CNYRMA


https://www.centro.org/service_sched...rtation-center


Area of town: 7 Northside


As is this area: //www.city-data.com/forum/52628762-post16.html

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Old 08-07-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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More in terms of the area of the East Side in between East Genesee and Erie Boulevard East, there may be potential for development in the Loguen Park area(Cherry Street/Lexington Ave./Columbus Street, etc. and what you could rebrand the area as): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0469...7i13312!8i6656


I believe that the Richmark building is for sale and appears to have been a former theater. It could be nice to have someone buy it and use it for a venue again for the arts or for second run/independent films. It could also be used for say a culturally based film festival or for events as well. The former bank could be used as another community based bank/credit branch as well. This is also a part of the Richmark property: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0478...7i13312!8i6656 and could be converted to housing and/or for commercial/industry use.


At Columbus and East Fayette could use some infill and sprucing up as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0483...7i13312!8i6656


It is a well travelled intersection in between the Boulevard and Westcott Street and could connect the two better.


There's also this building: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0492...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


It would be nice to make it a mixed use building that is connected to the Boulevard or at least cleared out to make it more visible once it is developed. It would also be nice if East Washington ran uninterrupted in that area as well.


There is potential for infill and revitalization of buildings near the public/lower income apartment housing. Boys and Girls Club, Birnbaum Funeral Home and the Syracuse Community Health Center(East Side location) further east: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0481...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0481...7i13312!8i6656


It was once a highly Jewish area(I believe initially housed quite a few Jewish war vets and their families) that became mixed around and stable/solid for a decade or so, before it declined. Once had the former Snow Flake Bakery and Patrician's Limo Service. Ironically, if you go about a block south you have more stability on Allen, Westmoreland and Ellis: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0464...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


This is a newer housing development nearby: VanKeuren Square - Housing Visions


Just to illustrate the Jewish presence that was in that area, this former Jewish War Veterans building has been revitalized into condos across East Genesee Street at the entrance to the Westcott Business District/neighborhood: Babcock-Shattuck House Restoration | UNPA
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0455...7i13312!8i6656
across the street was a former Jewish Community Center, but houses the Syracuse Peace Council(still has the Star of David at the top front of the building: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0455...7i13312!8i6656
Syracuse Peace Council


If you go further east past Croly you enter the working/middle class(becomes more middle class the further east you go) Salt Springs neighborhood, which is generally stable in its SFH neighborhoods, but also has a concentration of some older apartments in its northern portion towards Erie Boulevard as well. It has been an area of the city where a good portion of the Black middle class has lived in for decades(since the 1970's or so) and is predominantly Black, but still has a mix of people. https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0485...6!9m2!1b1!2i38
Side of town information: 5 Eastside
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:41 AM
 
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In terms of this area, it has seen some revitalization of properties such as "the 5 Sisters" here: https://www.timecapdevelopment.net/t...rs_park_avenue


My Central New York: Park Avenue Boulevard Architectural Walking Tour - This Sunday (Oct 3)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0520...7i13312!8i6656


There has also been some new loft apartments put into former industrial buildings as well: https://www.dietzlofts.com/
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Th...!4d-76.1641532 (older street view)


538 Erie | Experience Modern Living Downtown Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0496...7i13312!8i6656 (just inside of the area mentioned)


This building that was the site of the former Marcellus casket Factory has been revitalized as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0500...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


Also, this plaza in the former Sam Dell Car Dealership lot has been built up in recent years as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0537...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


You also have these places within that area: https://www.middleagesbrewing.com/
Dom Polski | Syracuse Polish Home
Welcome
https://www.facebook.com/RainLoungeSyracuse/
https://www.facebook.com/Calca%C3%B1...4339781590681/
United Auto Supply > Home
https://www.yelp.com/biz/park-grocery-and-meat-syracuse


A couple of schools: School Home | The Syracuse City School District | Syracuse, NY


http://www.sascs.org/ (the high school portion is in the area)


If the area can get more properties brought back to life(housing and commercial), which is a possibility due to its very close proximity to Downtown, it could be another city neighborhood in high(er) demand.
Side of town: 2 Westside


As is this area: //www.city-data.com/forum/52564400-post9.html


and this area: //www.city-data.com/forum/52624133-post15.html
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:47 AM
 
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Speaking of this corridor, another idea that came to mind is for this property: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0411...7i13312!8i6656


Given that it is literally a few blocks from Downtown and is nearly a straight shot down Adams from University hill, perhaps it could revitalized as a B&B like this Brooklyn business: Akwaaba Mansion - Brooklyn, NY


I say that given the demographics of the area and its location, along with another lodging option near areas of importance in the city.


You could also open a community based/owned hotel or housing in that corridor here as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0401...7i13312!8i6656 (416 building)


Same could be done with other properties on West Onondaga like these here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0375...7i13312!8i6656 (on the left and the right)


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0359...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0364...7i13312!8i6656 (?)


These properties are west of South Avenue, but interestingly enough, they aren't too far from this neighborhood if you continue down Onondaga Avenue and take a right onto Bellevue Avenue: Greater Strathmore Neighborhood Association | Weclome to City Living, Welcome to Strathmore


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strathmore,_Syracuse


Also, on West Onondaga, I'm not sure if the Rescue Mission owns this land, but at one time, it was a block of Black owned businesses(i.e.-Oasis Fish Market, Sadie's Place, etc. and there are a few mom and pop ones the next block over, as well as on the bottom floor of the coop building), but it is land adjacent to Downtown that could also be used for infill: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0427...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


There is a possibility for infill here: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0407...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


as well as for another school option, as I believe this Islamic based school was in that building that is set back from the street: https://www.facebook.com/ihsanschool/


Given that there is a former bank building in front of it, it could be an extension of the school idea presented for the South Salina corridor in terms of a lower/elementary school and an upper/high school with similar educational curriculum at both. That is what the Turkish owned Syracuse Academy of Science has in terms of being a multi school entity(all of which are in former Catholic schools) and this would allow for the community to take some ownership of educational and financial institutions located within the community. When I say community, this is the area of the city I'm referring to: http://www.tomorrowsneighborhoodstoday.org/southside/


It contains both the South Salina and the majority of the West Onondaga/South Avenue corridors.
Also includes this area: //www.city-data.com/forum/52623765-post14.html


//www.city-data.com/forum/52569664-post12.html
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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The bolded area: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0014807,-76.1427925,3a,75y,0.83h,85.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOTnfub272GVyQhfhsOAd1w!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656

In turn, this could help develop the South Salina Street corridor, which is the same street that this building is on: Sears Building

Businesses on the street in between: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0198...6!9m2!1b1!2i38

Also, in this corridor, a potential use for this building: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0255...7i13312!8i6656

Could be a mixed cultural center/museum similar to this: http://web1.bccnsweb.com/

Which could also house this organization: The Paul Robeson Performing Arts Company

Then, a couple of blocks south, the building on the right could be used for housing for mixed use for families, artists associated with the organization/facility above and for those looking to hone their craft as entrepreneurs at this facility across the street: South Side Innovation Center

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0227...7i13312!8i6656

Other nearby properties could also be put on the rolls by using said folks as well. There also is potential for more infill on the street as well.
Is actually in this sector: 4 Valley
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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Also, this area: 8 Lakefront has been seeing quite a bit of investment and has room for more. Some street views: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0587...6!9m2!1b1!2i38 (is coming along well)
https://thesyracuseinnerharbor.com/live/


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0599...6!9m2!1b1!2i38
https://thesyracuseinnerharbor.com/stay/


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0566...6!9m2!1b1!2i38
to the right: http://www.syracuse.ny.us/Parks/franklinSquarePark.html


to the left: https://www.facebook.com/FreedomOfEspresso/


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0595...6!9m2!1b1!2i38


More information here: //www.city-data.com/forum/52479595-post90.html
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