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Syracuse lost population, again along with the rest of upstate.
Onondaga county 466,194 down 2,081 since 2015
Oswego county 118,987 down 975 since 2015
Madison county 71,329 down 442 since 2015
These are just estimates, but Syracuse was the worst of all upstate cities.
Syracuse lost population, again along with the rest of upstate.
Onondaga county 466,194 down 2,081 since 2015
Oswego county 118,987 down 975 since 2015
Madison county 71,329 down 442 since 2015
These are just estimates, but Syracuse was the worst of all upstate cities.
Interesting.....Are you referring to the city proper or metro area? As mentioned in another post, I'd be interested to see what 2020 will bring.
That Onondaga County count means that the estimates until now were the same or similar to the 2010 population for the county.
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Interesting.....Are you referring to the city proper or metro area? As mentioned in another post, I'd be interested to see what 2020 will bring.
the metro, and metro areas as a whole did very poorly in 2016. Chicago went into a free fall, and St. Louis MSA and Milwaukee MSA fell for the first time ever. growth slowed in almost all big metros. Toledo, Youngstown, Scranton, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Buffalo and Rochester all lost as well.
the metro, and metro areas as a whole did very poorly in 2016. Chicago went into a free fall, and St. Louis MSA and Milwaukee MSA fell for the first time ever. growth slowed in almost all big metros. Toledo, Youngstown, Scranton, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Buffalo and Rochester all lost as well.
Then you look at Horry County, SC and its growing like no place I've ever witnessed. The counties surrounding Charlotte on the SC side are growing like fertilized weeds. 4% in one year! I drive around here and unfortunately every other structure is abandoned. That's in NYS, PA, and NJ. Its awful. I had a glimmer of hope last spring- I saw so many people outside fixing their properties. Soon after, I saw for sale signs on most and now the banks hire property managers to mow the weeds and shovel the driveways of foreclosed properties. People are still walking away from homes here.
I'm 100% convinced that Americans want a new, shiny house on a nice plot of land with low taxes, abundant sunshine, and tons of brand new stores nearby. The narrative here in NJ is "oh, look how many people are moving to our cities". Except when you really break down the numbers, Americans are moving out in large numbers to the Sunbelt and "international migrants" are moving in, in large numbers.
Then you look at Horry County, SC and its growing like no place I've ever witnessed. The counties surrounding Charlotte on the SC side are growing like fertilized weeds. 4% in one year! I drive around here and unfortunately every other structure is abandoned. That's in NYS, PA, and NJ. Its awful. I had a glimmer of hope last spring- I saw so many people outside fixing their properties. Soon after, I saw for sale signs on most and now the banks hire property managers to mow the weeds and shovel the driveways of foreclosed properties. People are still walking away from homes here.
I'm 100% convinced that Americans want a new, shiny house on a nice plot of land with low taxes, abundant sunshine, and tons of brand new stores nearby. The narrative here in NJ is "oh, look how many people are moving to our cities". Except when you really break down the numbers, Americans are moving out in large numbers to the Sunbelt and "international migrants" are moving in, in large numbers.
I also think that as the baby boomers hit retirement age, they are more apt to leave. Horry County, which is where Myrtle Beach is located is a good example of this, as it is largely a service based economy with some manufacturing. It is likely the biggest gainer in that part of SC as well.
I also think that as the baby boomers hit retirement age, they are more apt to leave. Horry County, which is where Myrtle Beach is located is a good example of this, as it is largely a service based economy with some manufacturing. It is likely the biggest gainer in that part of SC as well.
Percentage wise, Lancaster County, SC within the Charlotte metro, is the biggest gainer. The average age there is 39, same as Erie County. So, I'm not sure that much of this demographic movement to the Sunbelt is driven by retirees. Horry County is a bit older (41) but still not all that old. And areas like Travis County TX (30 yrs) and Denver County (33 yrs old) are pretty young and very quickly growing areas.
Also, I am not stating this to put NYS down. I'd rather live in Monroe County, NY than Lancaster County, SC. Monroe definitely has much more to offer as of now, and a nicer landscape. But I am concerned by what I see, in NY, NJ, and PA lately. Its changing rapidly and I'm not sure for the better.
Percentage wise, Lancaster County, SC within the Charlotte metro, is the biggest gainer. The average age there is 39, same as Erie County. So, I'm not sure that much of this demographic movement to the Sunbelt is driven by retirees. Horry County is a bit older (41) but still not all that old. And areas like Travis County TX (30 yrs) and Denver County (33 yrs old) are pretty young and very quickly growing areas.
Also, I am not stating this to put NYS down. I'd rather live in Monroe County, NY than Lancaster County, SC. Monroe definitely has much more to offer as of now, and a nicer landscape. But I am concerned by what I see, in NY, NJ, and PA lately. Its changing rapidly and I'm not sure for the better.
I know what you are saying and I'm not saying that it is "driven" by retirees, but that it is a demographic that can't be overlooked in terms of those moving. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timei...3Fsource%3Ddam
Other demographics may also play a part, such as a higher Black percentage, as the Black median age tends to be lower. You do have families to these counties as well.
With Travis County(Austin) and Denver(which really isn't Sun Belt), they have been magnets for a while and with Austin, it doesn't hurt to have one of the biggest universities in the country in the city.
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