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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod
^How is that relevant to what is going on in Syracuse?
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I'm trying to do independent research to really figure out if Syracuse is the safest Metropolitan Area in the US.
To do that I need to eliminate all the other metropolitan areas.
Does anyone know other US metropolitan areas that are down river of a large dam that would do serious damage to a large population if it broke?
So far the metropolitan areas with large dams that could be a disaster for the city are...
Nashville
Atlanta
Charlotte
Columbia SC
Tulsa Oklahoma |
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11-05-2022, 10:18 AM
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The entire state of NY is a natural disaster. It started in Albany and spread quickly.
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11-05-2022, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bellafinzi
I'm trying to do independent research to really figure out if Syracuse is the safest Metropolitan Area in the US.
To do that I need to eliminate all the other metropolitan areas.
Does anyone know other US metropolitan areas that are down river of a large dam that would do serious damage to a large population if it broke?
So far the metropolitan areas with large dams that could be a disaster for the city are...
Nashville
Atlanta
Charlotte
Columbia SC
Tulsa Oklahoma
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I would ask this in the General US forum, as you would be more likely to get a wider range of information on the topic from people across the country.
A lot of these lists can vary due to the the difference in criteria that is laid out for the list. It may also depend on the time period, as that list where Syracuse is #1, it came out in 2013. So, there is a number of variables that has to be considered with any list. |
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11-11-2022, 02:03 AM
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Metropolitan areas over 500,000 with the main reasons they aren't the safest place to live in the US
If all the ice melts on the earth it would raise the sea level about 230 feet. So any metropolitan areas below 250 feet in elevation aren't safe IMO.
Any city can flood but only cities that have a history of flooding or high risk of flooding are listed as unsafe.
Tornadoes can happen anywhere so places with the highest risk are listed as unsafe.
A high possibility of water shortages within the next 20 years can be a reason to be listed as unsafe in my list.
Any metropolitan areas with large tall dams that if broke would cause serious flooding can be a reason to be listed as unsafe
1 New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA MSA 19,768,458 20,140,470 −1.85% New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA MSA 12,997,353 13,200,998 −1.54% Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA
Earthquake
Elevation
Tsunami
3 Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI MSA 9,509,934 9,618,502 −1.13% Chicago-Naperville, IL-IN-WI CSA
River Flooding problem
4 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA 7,759,615 7,637,387 +1.60% Dallas-Fort Worth, TX-OK CSA
Water shortages
5 Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX MSA 7,206,841 7,122,240 +1.19% Houston-The Woodlands, TX CSA
Hurricanes
Tsunami
Elevation
6 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV MSA 6,356,434 6,385,162 −0.45% Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA
Other than crime rates it is a Safe metropolitan area
7 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA 6,228,601 6,245,051 −0.26% Philadelphia-Reading-Camden, PA-NJ-DE-MD CSA
Elevation
8 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA MSA 6,144,050 6,089,815 +0.89% Atlanta–Athens-Clarke County–Sandy Springs, GA-AL CSA
Large Tall Dam
Water shortages
9 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL MSA 6,091,747 6,138,333 −0.76% Miami-Port St. Lucie-Fort Lauderdale, FL CSA
Hurricanes
Tsunami
Elevation
10 Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ MSA 4,946,145 4,845,832 +2.07% Phoenix-Mesa, AZ CSA
Water shortages
11 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH MSA 4,899,932 4,941,632 −0.84% Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
12 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA MSA 4,653,105 4,599,839 +1.16% Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA
Earthquake
Water shortages
13 San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley, CA MSA 4,623,264 4,749,008 −2.65% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
Earthquake
Water shortages
Tsunami
14 Detroit–Warren–Dearborn, MI MSA 4,365,205 4,392,041 −0.61% Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor, MI CSA
Flooding from poor water infrastructure
15 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA MSA 4,011,553 4,018,762 −0.18% Seattle-Tacoma, WA CSA
Earthquake
Water shortages
16 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI MSA 3,690,512 3,690,261 +0.01% Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI CSA
Flooding from Rivers
17 San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad, CA MSA 3,286,069 3,298,634 −0.38%
Tsunami
Elevation
18 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA 3,219,514 3,175,275 +1.39%
Tsunami
Elevation
Hurricanes
19 Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO MSA 2,972,566 2,963,821 +0.30% Denver-Aurora, CO CSA
Hail storms
Water shortages
20 Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD MSA 2,838,327 2,844,510 −0.22% Washington-Baltimore-Arlington, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA CSA
Elevation
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St. Louis, MO-IL MSA 2,809,299 2,820,253 −0.39% St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL CSA
Earthquake
Flooding from Rivers
22 Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC MSA 2,701,046 2,660,329 +1.53% Charlotte-Concord, NC-SC CSA
large tall Dam
23 Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL MSA 2,691,925 2,673,376 +0.69% Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona, FL CSA
Hurricanes
Water shortages
Elevation
24 San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX MSA 2,601,788 2,558,143 +1.71% San Antonio-New Braunfels-Pearsall, TX CSA
Water shortages
25 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA MSA 2,511,612 2,512,859 −0.05% Portland-Vancouver–Salem, OR-WA CSA
Earthquake
26 Sacramento-Roseville-Folsom, CA MSA 2,411,428 2,397,382 +0.59% Sacramento-Roseville, CA CSA
Water shortages
Flooding from Rivers
27 Pittsburgh, PA MSA 2,353,538 2,370,930 −0.73% Pittsburgh-New Castle-Weirton, PA-OH-WV CSA
Flooding from Rivers
28 Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown, TX MSA 2,352,426 2,283,371 +3.02%
Large Tall dams
Water shortages
29 Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV MSA 2,292,476 2,265,461 +1.19% Las Vegas-Henderson, NV-AZ CSA
Water shortages
Large Tall dam
30 Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN MSA 2,259,935 2,256,884 +0.14% Cincinnati-Wilmington-Maysville, OH-KY-IN CSA
Flooding from Rivers
31 Kansas City, MO-KS MSA 2,199,490 2,192,035 +0.34% Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City, MO-KS CSA
Tornadoes?
Water shortages?
One of the water metropolitan areas
32 Columbus, OH MSA 2,151,017 2,138,926 +0.57% Columbus-Marion-Zanesville, OH CSA
Water shortages
33 Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN MSA 2,126,804 2,111,040 +0.75% Indianapolis-Carmel-Muncie, IN CSA
Water shortages
34 Cleveland-Elyria, OH MSA 2,075,662 2,088,251 −0.60% Cleveland-Akron-Canton, OH CSA
Tsunami off of lake Erie?
35 Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro–Franklin, TN MSA 2,012,476 1,989,519 +1.15% Nashville-Davidson–Murfreesboro, TN CSA
Large Tall dam
36 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA MSA 1,952,185 2,000,468 −2.41% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
Water shortages
Earthquake
37 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC MSA 1,803,328 1,799,674 +0.20% Virginia Beach-Norfolk, VA-NC CSA
Tsunami
Elevation
38 Providence-Warwick, RI-MA MSA 1,675,774 1,676,579 −0.05% Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
39 Jacksonville, FL MSA 1,637,666 1,605,848 +1.98% Jacksonville-St. Marys-Palatka, FL-GA CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
Hurricanes
40 Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI MSA 1,566,487 1,574,731 −0.52% Milwaukee-Racine-Waukesha, WI CSA
Tsunami from lake Michigan?
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Raleigh-Cary, NC MSA 1,448,411 1,413,982 +2.43% Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC CSA
Hurricanes
42 Oklahoma City, OK MSA 1,441,647 1,425,695 +1.12% Oklahoma City-Shawnee, OK CSA
Tornadoes
43 Memphis, TN-MS-AR MSA 1,336,103 1,337,779 −0.13% Memphis-Forrest City, TN-MS-AR CSA
Flooding from Rivers
44 Richmond, VA MSA 1,324,062 1,314,434 +0.73%
Elevation
45 Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN MSA 1,284,566 1,285,439 −0.07% Louisville/Jefferson County–Elizabethtown–Bardstown, KY-IN CSA
Flooding from Rivers
46 Salt Lake City, UT MSA 1,263,061 1,257,936 +0.41% Salt Lake City-Provo-Ogden, UT CSA
Earthquake
Water shortages
47 New Orleans-Metairie, LA MSA 1,261,726 1,271,845 −0.80% New Orleans-Metairie-Hammond, LA-MS CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
Hurricanes
48 Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown, CT MSA 1,211,906 1,213,531 −0.13% Hartford-East Hartford, CT CSA
Elevation
49 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY MSA 1,162,336 1,166,902 −0.39% Buffalo-Cheektowaga-Cattaraugus, NY CSA
Tsunami from lake Erie?
Overall a safe metropolitan area
50 Birmingham-Hoover, AL MSA 1,114,262 1,115,289 −0.09% Birmingham-Hoover-Talladega, AL CSA
Water shortages?
51 Grand Rapids-Kentwood, MI MSA 1,091,620 1,087,592 +0.37% Grand Rapids-Kentwood-Muskegon, MI CSA
Safe metropolitan area
52 Rochester, NY MSA 1,084,973 1,090,135 −0.47% Rochester-Batavia-Seneca Falls, NY CSA
Tsunami from lake Ontario?I
But overall a safe metropolitan area
53 Tucson, AZ MSA 1,052,030 1,043,433 +0.82% Tucson-Nogales, AZ CSA
Water shortages
54 Tulsa, OK MSA 1,023,988 1,015,331 +0.85% Tulsa-Muskogee-Bartlesville, OK CSA
Tornadoes
Large Tall dam
55 Fresno, CA MSA 1,013,581 1,008,654 +0.49% Fresno-Madera-Hanford, CA CSA
Water shortages
56 Urban Honolulu, HI MSA 1,000,890 1,016,508 −1.54%
Tsunami
Elevation
57 Worcester, MA-CT MSA 978,447 978,529 −0.01% Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT CSA
Water shortages?
58 Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA MSA 971,637 967,604 +0.42% Omaha-Council Bluffs-Fremont, NE-IA CSA
Water shortages?
River Flooding?
59 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT MSA 959,768 957,419 +0.25% New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
Tsunami
Elevation
60 Greenville-Anderson, SC MSA 940,774 928,195 +1.36% Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson, SC CSA
Large Tall dam in one area
But overall a safe metropolitan area
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Albuquerque, NM MSA 918,259 916,528 +0.19% Albuquerque-Santa Fe-Las Vegas, NM CSA
Water shortages
62 Bakersfield, CA MSA 917,673 909,235 +0.93%
Water shortages
63 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY MSA 899,286 899,262 0.00% Albany-Schenectady, NY CSA
Elevation
64 Knoxville, TN MSA 893,412 879,773 +1.55% Knoxville-Morristown-Sevierville, TN CSA
Large Tall dam
Earthquake
65 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX MSA 880,356 870,781 +1.10% McAllen-Edinburg, TX CSA
Flooding from Rivers
Water shortages?
Tsunami
Elevation
66 Baton Rouge, LA MSA 871,905 870,569 +0.15%
Flooding from Rivers
Elevation
67 El Paso, TX MSA 871,234 868,859 +0.27% El Paso-Las Cruces, TX-NM CSA
Flooding from Rivers
68 Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ MSA 865,310 861,889 +0.40%
A Safe metropolitan area
69 New Haven-Milford, CT MSA 863,700 864,835 −0.13% New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
70 North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton, FL MSA 859,760 833,716 +3.12% North Port-Sarasota, FL CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
Hurricanes
71 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA MSA 839,784 843,843 −0.48% Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA CSA
Earthquake
Water shortages
72 Columbia, SC MSA 838,250 829,470 +1.06% Columbia-Orangeburg-Newberry, SC CSA
Large Tall dam
Water shortages?
73 Dayton, OH MSA 813,516 814,049 −0.07% Dayton-Springfield-Kettering, OH CSA
Water shortages?
74 Charleston-North Charleston, SC MSA 813,052 799,636 +1.68%
Tsunami
Elevation
Hurricanes
75 Boise, ID MSA 795,268 764,718 +3.99% Boise City-Mountain Home-Ontario, ID-OR CSA
Large Tall dam
76 Stockton, CA MSA 789,410 779,233 +1.31% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
Water shortages
Flooding?
77 Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL MSA 787,976 760,822 +3.57% Cape Coral-Fort Myers-Naples, FL CSA
Tsunami
Elevation
Hurricanes
78 Greensboro-High Point, NC MSA 778,848 776,566 +0.29% Greensboro–Winston-Salem–High Point, NC CSA
Water shortages?
79 Colorado Springs, CO MSA 762,793 755,105 +1.02%
Water shortages?
80 Lakeland-Winter Haven, FL MSA 753,520 725,046 +3.93% Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona, FL CSA
Elevation
Flooding
Hurricanes
81 Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR MSA 750,936 748,031 +0.39% Little Rock-North Little Rock, AR CSA
Water shortages?
82 Des Moines-West Des Moines, IA MSA 719,146 709,466 +1.36% Des Moines-Ames-West Des Moines, IA CSA
Flooding from Rivers
83 Ogden-Clearfield, UT MSA 706,696 694,863 +1.70% Salt Lake City-Provo-Ogden, UT CSA
Earthquake
84 Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY MSA 701,637 697,221 +0.63% New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
Elevation
85 Akron, OH MSA 700,015 702,219 −0.31% Cleveland-Akron-Canton, OH CSA
A safe metropolitan area
86 Provo-Orem, UT MSA 697,141 671,185 +3.87% Salt Lake City-Provo-Ogden, UT CSA
Earthquake
87 Springfield, MA MSA 695,305 699,162 −0.55%
Flooding from Rivers?
88 Deltona-Daytona Beach-Ormond Beach, FL MSA 685,344 668,921 +2.46% Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona, FL CSA
Tsunami
Elevation
Hurricanes
89 Madison, WI MSA 683,183 680,796 +0.35% Madison-Janesville-Beloit, WI CSA
Water shortages?
But overall a safe metropolitan area
90 Winston-Salem, NC MSA 681,438 675,966 +0.81% Greensboro–Winston-Salem–High Point, NC CSA
Water shortages?
91 Syracuse, NY MSA 658,281 662,057 −0.57% Syracuse-Auburn, NY CSA
A safe metropolitan area
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Durham-Chapel Hill, NC MSA 654,012 649,903 +0.63% Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC CSADid
Hurricanes?
Water shortages?
93 Wichita, KS MSA 647,919 647,610 +0.05% Wichita-Winfield, KS CSA
Tornadoes
94 Toledo, OH MSA 644,217 646,604 −0.37% Toledo-Findlay-Tiffin, OH CSA
Tsunami from lake Erie?
Flooding?
But overall a safe metropolitan area
95 Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL MSA 616,628 606,612 +1.65%
Tsunami
Elevation
Hurricanes
96 Augusta-Richmond County, GA-SC MSA 615,933 611,000 +0.81%
Flooding from Rivers?
Elevation
97 Harrisburg-Carlisle, PA MSA 596,305 591,712 +0.78% Harrisburg-York-Lebanon, PA CSA
Flooding from Rivers
But overall a safe metropolitan area
98 Spokane-Spokane Valley, WA MSA 593,466 585,784 +1.31% Spokane-Spokane Valley-Coeur d'Alene, WA-ID CSA
Water shortages?
99 Jackson, MS MSA 587,202 591,978 −0.81% Jackson-Vicksburg-Brookhaven, MS CSA
Water shortages?
Water issues?
100 Scranton–Wilkes-Barre, PA MSA 567,750 567,559 +0.03%
Flooding?
But overall a safe metropolitan area
101 Chattanooga, TN-GA MSA 567,641 562,647 +0.89% Chattanooga-Cleveland-Dalton, TN-GA CSA
Flooding from Rivers
Water shortages
102 Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AR MSA 560,709 546,725 +2.56%
Safe metropolitan area?
103 Portland-South Portland, ME MSA 556,893 551,740 +0.93% Portland-Lewiston-South Portland, ME CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
104 Lancaster, PA MSA 553,652 552,984 +0.12%
Safe metropolitan area?
105 Modesto, CA MSA 552,999 552,878 +0.02% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA CSA
Water shortages
106 Lansing-East Lansing, MI MSA 540,281 541,297 −0.19%
Safe metropolitan area?
107 Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH-PA MSA 538,069 541,243 −0.59% Youngstown-Warren, OH-PA CSA
Safe metropolitan area?
108 Fayetteville, NC MSA 524,588 520,378 +0.81% Fayetteville-Lumberton-Laurinburg, NC CSA
Hurricanes
109 Lexington-Fayette, KY MSA 517,846 516,811 +0.20% Lexington-Fayette–Richmond–Frankfort, KY CSA
Flooding?
110 Pensacola-Ferry Pass-Brent, FL MSA 516,388 509,905 +1.27% Pensacola-Ferry Pass, FL-AL CSA
Tsunami
Elevation
Hurricanes
111 Myrtle Beach-Conway-North Myrtle Beach, SC-NC MSA 509,794 487,722 +4.53% Myrtle Beach-Conway, SC-NC CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
Hurricanes
112 Port St. Lucie, FL MSA 503,521 487,657 +3.25% Miami-Port St. Lucie-Fort Lauderdale, FL CSA
Elevation
Tsunami
Hurricanes
113 Huntsville, AL MSA 502,728 491,723 +2.24% Huntsville-Decatur, AL CSA
Safe metropolitan area?
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I didn't include wildfires but metropolitan areas most prone to wildfires are basically all metropolitan areas in the Western US states and Texas.
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11-11-2022, 04:55 AM
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In my opinion, if the United States leadership really believed in climate change and securing our national security it would make logical sense to stop major government money or major future investment in places that are historically prone to the most destructive natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes. And start investing in climate change safe havens.
Not only would it save lives, but save money by not having to rebuild after natural disasters.
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