01-04-2011, 10:46 AM
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I did that, I was connecting through VZ Manager.
Now that Verizon offers specific data networks which work seperately from its cellular network, there is nothing you can do. For example, sometimes with my iPhone, I have no data network availible when traveling (3G or EDGE), but I have my basic GSM coverage in spotty areas. I can make phone calls, but not check my email. Years ago, the Data and Cellular networks were one in the same.
They are now two different technologies and sometimes the signal strength is there for your phone calls (CDMA), but not data (3G), hardly ever the other way around. I suspect years ago you could access the internet up the hill before verizon rolled out its data networks, when you could essentially use your cell phone as a standard modem at "dial-up" speeds because you were accessing the internet much the way you would from a dial-up modem at home through a "Public Switched Telephone Network" or PSTN. Now that they offer data networks, more comparable to "broadband" which runs seperately from the cellular network, and on a less strong/consistant network, albeit far quicker and superior, It is likely you are not getting 3G up the hill, which you now need to connect to the internet, whereas a few years ago, the simple Cellular (in your case with Verizon CDMA) which is stronger and more consistant, was able to connect to the internet through a PSTN, thus allowing you to access the web in more places, although slower- and hard on the network.
You are the rare instance where technology has actually limited you (and I cant help but feel this wouldnt happen to anyone else other than you algia
) Until 3G signal is stronger in the area, or they roll out 4G or LTE in the area, you are stuck without service up there. The same signal is still there, they are just no longer offering data transfer other than voice on those frequencies and network.
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01-04-2011, 11:15 AM
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Interesting that they split the networks that way. I use, and don't laught, T-Mobile and even without 3G i'm able to check my e-mail or upload that picture to the facebook from my phone. However even with T-Mobile i get good 3G coverage around the city and it wears off only in country.
01-04-2011, 11:22 AM
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Interesting that they split the networks that way. I use, and don't laught, T-Mobile and even without 3G i'm able to check my e-mail or upload that picture to the facebook from my phone. However even with T-Mobile i get good 3G coverage around the city and it wears off only in country.
When you are not accessing 3G for data, due to 3G signal constraints in the area, you are accessing the "Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution" (EDGE) network, which is a mobile phone technology that allows improved data transmission rates as a backward-compatible extension of GSM. EDGE is considered a pre-3G radio technology.
My iPhone switches to EDGE when 3G is unavailible. Your phone may or may not have an "E" in place of "3G" when it is doing the same.
T-Mobile is a GSM phone like mine (AT&T), while it works simarly to a CDMA phone like algia's, there are a few differences, this being one of them. For very short periods of time, in rare circumstances, my EDGE will cut out too- but this also usually results in a dropped call. while
NOT using 3G, you should not be able to make a phone call AND post to facebook at the same time, as you can with the 3G network, as it is utilizing an entirely different network than the Cellular GSM network. Data other than digital voice is no longer passed through a PSTN from mobile devices.
01-04-2011, 11:36 AM
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Wow, lots of (probably) unnecessary info in this thread. Yes, Wi-Fi is not the same as using a wireless frequency via a router, but I think we all knew what the person meant, right? Some of you were just showing off
algia: You will be fine with Verizon FiOS. Their modem/router is also a wireless router so you will be able to connect to it with your laptops, without ethernet cables. Best of luck!
01-04-2011, 12:11 PM
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well, I am glad to know that "E" on my ipad stands for EDGE and not error....LOLOL I get that in the middle of nowhere generally and it is slower, but still works.
I stopped using that as a modem after I got the ipad....but now it all makes sense and I hope that the G4 or something else will work up there in the future, I haven't tried AT&T with the ipad yet....next summer unless by some miracle we get there before that....LOL
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When you are not accessing 3G for data, due to 3G signal constraints in the area, you are accessing the "Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution" (EDGE) network, which is a mobile phone technology that allows improved data transmission rates as a backward-compatible extension of GSM. EDGE is considered a pre-3G radio technology.NOT using 3G, you should not be able to make a phone call AND post to facebook at the same time, as you can with the 3G network, as it is utilizing an entirely different network than the Cellular GSM network. Data other than digital voice is no longer passed through a PSTN from mobile devices.
01-04-2011, 12:14 PM
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all tho....Verizon, and also the specs on my Droid, says that it too can be used as a modem with that VZ manager???? I wonder how that works? considering the above....will it make a difference that it is a smart phone?
01-04-2011, 12:36 PM
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algia
all tho....Verizon, and also the specs on my Droid, says that it too can be used as a modem with that VZ manager???? I wonder how that works? considering the above....will it make a difference that it is a smart phone?
It can be used as a "modem", but it is providing a network connection for the 3G network. The DROID can also be used as a mobile hotspot, in which you can connect additional wireless devices to it via its own WLAN, but again, it utlizes 3G to connect to the internet.
There is a way to get the phone to connect to the internet using standard CDMA to a dial-up network, but it requires you to install software such as "PDAnet". This software is probably tough to get going, I think it costs around $30, and I know nothing about it- so I cant really help or advise on this topic.
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01-04-2011, 02:52 PM
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Yeah, it was really cool connecting it to my wireless network (the Droid I mean)...
Ok.....
Thank you,
How long does the FIOS install take? we have it scheduled but I was just curious.....
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It can be used as a "modem", but it is providing a network connection for the 3G network. The DROID can also be used as a mobile hotspot, in which you can connect additional wireless devices to it via its own WLAN, but again, it utlizes 3G to connect to the internet.
There is a way to get the phone to connect to the internet using standard CDMA to a dial-up network, but it requires you to install software such as "PDAnet". This software is probably tough to get going, I think it costs around $30, and I know nothing about it- so I cant really help or advise on this topic.
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01-04-2011, 03:47 PM
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algia
Yeah, it was really cool connecting it to my wireless network (the Droid I mean)...
I live in a FIOS only community, so it was ready to go... about 20 minutes, but I have heard it can be 4+ hours for first timers.
01-04-2011, 03:49 PM
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Ohh, cool.....Thanks,
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I live in a FIOS only community, so it was ready to go... about 20 minutes, but I have heard it can be 4+ hours for first timers.
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People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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