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Old 01-29-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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Fluoride deposition in the aged human pin... [Caries Res. 2001 Mar-Apr] - PubMed - NCBI

"Fluoride deposition in the aged human pineal gland" [in the brain].- Luke, J.

"The purpose was to discover whether fluoride (F) accumulates in the aged human pineal gland. By old age, the pineal gland has readily accumulated F and its F/Ca ratio is higher than bone."
PMID: 11275672

A "calcified pineal gland" has been linked to Alzheimer's Disease.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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Fluoridation: a fifty-year-old accepted but u... [Med Hypotheses. 1988] - PubMed - NCBI

"Fluoridation: a fifty-year-old accepted but unconfirmed hypothesis"

"The fifty-year-old fluoridation hypothesis has not been confirmed. Despite this, millions of people are still medicated with fluoride by government decree, on the assumption that this process has been proved to be entirely safe, and very efficacious in reducing dental caries. In fact, the scientific basis of fluoridation is very unsatisfactory. It is promoted, in the main, by emotion-based 'endorsements' rather than by scientifically-acceptable evidence."
PMID: 3059145

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Fluoridation: a violation... [Int J Occup Environ Health. 2003 Jan-Mar] - PubMed - NCBI

"Fluoridation: a violation of medical ethics and human rights"

"Silicofluorides­, used in water fluoridation, are unlicensed medicinal substances, administered to populations without informed consent or supervision by a qualified medical practitioner. Silicofluorides have never been submitted to the U.S. FDA for approval as medicines. The ethical validity of fluoridation policy does not stand up to scrutiny to the Nuremberg Code and other codes of medical ethics."
PMID: 12749628
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Clastogenic activity of sodium fluoride in great a... [Mutat Res. 1993] - PubMed - NCBI

"Clastogenic activity of sodium fluoride in great ape cells"

"NaF [sodium fluoride] is known to induce chromosome aberrations at these concentrations in human cells, but not in most rodent cells. The results showed that the clastogenicity [chromosome damage] of NaF [sodium fluoride] was limited to human and great ape cells."
PMID: 7679201
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Saint Petersburg, FL
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I admit to not knowing where I stand on this issue. This last poster has certainly brought up some information that I was not aware of and is, at the very least, worth considering.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Boca Raton FL
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Just curious about a couple of items…

• why it is necessary to internally *ingest fluoride* in drinking water?
• walk to your toothpaste tube this evening.
does it say this?

WARNING: Keep out of reach of children under 6 years of age. If you accidentally swallow more than used for brushing, seek professional help or contact a poison control center immediately.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Just curious about a couple of items…

• why it is necessary to internally *ingest fluoride* in drinking water?
• walk to your toothpaste tube this evening.
does it say this?

WARNING: Keep out of reach of children under 6 years of age. If you accidentally swallow more than used for brushing, seek professional help or contact a poison control center immediately.
It has to do with the concentration of fluoride between the two substances, which is obviously radically different. It's sort of like comparing the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide (which we breathe) to the concentration in a can of soda (that we ingest)....aka quite dissimilar!
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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It has to do with the concentration of fluoride between the two substances, which is obviously radically different. It's sort of like comparing the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide (which we breathe) to the concentration in a can of soda (that we ingest)....aka quite dissimilar!
The recommended amount of fluoridated toothpaste to use when brushing your teeth is a pea-sized amount on your toothbrush. The amount of fluoride contained in that pea-sized amount of toothpaste used for brushing is equivalant to the amount of fluoride in one glass of fluoridated water. Most people consume more than one glass of water each day. Its used in cooking as well. Fluoride does not evaporate, nor can it be cooked out of whatever you cook. Cooking with it only concentrates it further. Any city that is fluoridated also prepares their processed foods and beverages with their fluoridated tap water. They do not remove the fluoride when making soups, beverages, etc. This fluoride bioaccumulates in your body into old age (like lead).

Dr. P.H. Phillips, biochemist, University of Wisconsin stated,
"Fluoride is an accumulative poison which accumulates in the skeletal structures, including the teeth, when the body is exposed to small daily intakes of this element. ...it is like lead accumulation in the bone until saturation occurs and then lead poisoning sets in.”

According to the Physican's Desk Reference, the mucosal lining inside the mouth has an absorption efficiency of over ninety percent. Because of this, fluoride and other carcinogens can get into your blood, your brain, and your cells in no time at all. Children are being overexposed to fluoride simply from using toothpaste with fluoride. You don't have to drink it in water to ingest it. Fluoride is absorbed through the tissues of the mouth much like sublingual Vitamin B-12, or nitroglycerin tablets for those with heart problems.

The failure to account for inhalation, mucosal, and dermal exposures to fluorides is the most significant flaw in fluoride research. It invalidates all dosage conclusions based solely on ingestion via tap water.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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See PubMed.gov

Impact of imported beverages on fluoridated... [Gen Dent. 1998 Mar-Apr] - PubMed - NCBI

"Impact of imported beverages on fluoridated and nonfluoridated communities"

"In order to compare the effect of beverages "imported" from nearby communities on the fluoride intake of a fluoridated community with that of a nonfluoridated community, 45 different carbonated and juice drinks were sampled from Houston (fluoridated) and San Antonio (nonfluoridated) and examined for their fluoride concentrations. In spite of the fact that an individual lives in a low fluoride community, the risk of fluorosis exists through fluoride consumption in beverages as well as from the water supply and fluoride therapy."
PMID: 9663076
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Wake County, NC
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I'm still going to use fluoride like my dentist recommends. I've been using it all my life and don't have any problems.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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I'm still going to use fluoride like my dentist recommends. I've been using it all my life and don't have any problems.
That is your choice. Note the word "choice". When fluoride is put in the tap water, not everyone has a choice to use it, or refuse it. Furthermore, those who don't want it, or don't want to be exposed to it, still have to PAY for it, and then spend more money trying to avoid it... (i.e. reverse osmosis water filter system).

Many countries around the world are skeptical of the benefits of adding fluoride to drinking water. Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Japan and China have all recognized that water fluoridation is not a safe and fair practice.

Hereford, Texas was touted as the “town without a toothache” because high levels of natural water fluoride discoloured the townsfolk’s teeth but, we were told, they didn’t have any or few cavities. However, 12 to 14-year-olds living in Hereford, Texas, where the water was naturally fluoridated at 3.1 ppm, 100% had dental fluorosis; but only 38% were caries free, that is, 62% had dental caries.

Last edited by Meralyn; 02-02-2013 at 01:01 PM..
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