USF is raising tuition fees and yet is paying $2 million for football coach? (Tampa: credit, hotels)

[Gatornation]

Originally Posted by things and stuff

Let's talk facts. Everybody knows that the football programs pay for the million dollar salaries, but what evidence do you have that the USF athletic fund pays for the coaches' base salaries?

Lou Holtz had a base salary of $500k. The link below shows millions in salaries coming out of state coffers for USF football, but none show up for UF football. It's possible that they are being reimbursed to USF, but to just assume these things is to be entirely too trusting of government.

Salaries in Florida's Universities: Database

The University Athletic Association pays coaches salaries for UF. It's separate from UF and is not funded with state money. I'm guessing those very high athletic fees USF has go towards the salaries.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/201...ty-new-college

[boxus]

Originally Posted by SeaSpur

You don't know what you are talking about.

Coaches do not, unless there are very special circumstances, get paid from academic or anything taxpayers put into. The post you replied to and shot down was correct; you are wrong.

Besides, you can't look at a college coach versus a professor in terms of salaries. There are thousands of people who can do what college professors do...many of thousands. Not true for a successful football coach- they are rare. When you are rare, you are in low supply and high demand...and you know what economics tell us, right?

Also, the amount of money that coaches makes for the athletic program is ridiculous. Where are you going to find 80,000 people to attend a final calculus exam?

Last note: you need to know that athletic departments actually donate TO the school in multiple forms in many universities. The opposite of what you are trying to construe.

Can the team exist without the university? If so, then why is it part of the university, and not an independent organization?

[things and stuff]

Originally Posted by Gatornation

The University Athletic Association pays coaches salaries for UF. It's separate from UF and is not funded with state money. I'm guessing those very high athletic fees USF has go towards the salaries.

If you charge the students for millions of dollars in coach salaries, then that is truly twisted.. especially, if the athletic program markets itself as being a self-sustaining entity. You're fleecing the students whether they want to participate in athletics, or not.

People believe what they want to believe, though..

[Gatornation]

Originally Posted by MAniacTHW

The humor in this thread is that most of the people who are upset about tuition hike don't/have never been to school. And, lets be honest, we live in a state with UF. If you're going to USF, you probably deserve to pay more.

You should be paying less at USF as it's a lesser school. The problem in FL is that all tuition is very low compared to national standards.

[TransplantedFloridian]

Originally Posted by Gatornation

You should be paying less at USF as it's a lesser school. The problem in FL is that all tuition is very low compared to national standards.

I'm failing to see the "problem".

[TXRyan23]

Originally Posted by Gatornation

You should be paying less at USF as it's a lesser school. The problem in FL is that all tuition is very low compared to national standards.

Do you have any stats to back that up ? Looking at the UT-Austin website and comparing it to the UF website, it looks like UF is just a tad more expensive, by about like $2,000. I'm just curious to see if you have any info that ranks states based on college costs..

[Gatornation]

Originally Posted by TransplantedFloridian

I'm failing to see the "problem".

The problem is universities in Florida are competing nationally on many levels with other schools that are bringing in more money in tuition.

[Gatornation]

Originally Posted by TXRyan23

Do you have any stats to back that up ? Looking at the UT-Austin website and comparing it to the UF website, it looks like UF is just a tad more expensive, by about like $2,000. I'm just curious to see if you have any info that ranks states based on college costs..

Sure. You will find many FL universities on this list. Many much higher on the list due to cost as they are not great academic schools.

Best Values in Public Colleges, 2011-12

[TransplantedFloridian]

Originally Posted by Gatornation

The problem is universities in Florida are competing nationally on many levels with other schools that are bringing in more money in tuition.

...and schools in FL are among some of the best in the nation - academically and athletically. So I say again...I fail to see the problem.

[TXRyan23]

Originally Posted by Gatornation

Sure. You will find many FL universities on this list. Many much higher on the list due to cost as they are not great academic schools.

Best Values in Public Colleges, 2011-12

Thanks for the link...