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Old 03-14-2013, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by Spring Hillian View Post
OK. Are you saying that such jobs do not exist in most major cities including those in FL?

It seems that you advocate higher wages for entry level positions and I agree, we all should be paid more. $10 an hour minimum sound reasonable. I believe FL ranks 12th on the list of highest paying minimum wage states.

There are approximately 1/4 of a mil minimum wage workers in Florida's 7.49 million strong work force. That is a very small percentage of the work force. Not to say that many more are in the $8-10 range, but the Census will tell us that the median house hold income in FL is $47,827.
Based on 2011 numbers, The states rank as follows for "Median Household Income."
List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* I didn't list Washington D.C. as it's not a state.

Rank State
01 Maryland $70,004
02 Alaska $67,825
03 New Jersey $67,458
04 Connecticut $65,753
05 Massachusetts $62,859
06 New Hampshire $62,647
07 Virginia $61,882
08 Hawaii $61,821
09 Delaware $58,814
10 California $57,287
11 Minnesota $56,954
12 Washington $56,835
13 Wyoming $56,322
14 Utah $55,869
15 Colorado $55,387
16 New York $55,246
17 Rhode Island $53,636
18 Illinois $53,234
19 Vermont $52,776
20 North Dakota $51,704

United States Average $50,502

21 Wisconsin $50,395
22 Nebraska $50,296
23 Pennsylvania $50,228
24 Iowa $49,427
25 Texas $49,392
26 Kansas $48,964
27 Nevada $48,927
28 South Dakota $48,321
29 Oregon $46,816
30 Arizona $46,709
31 Indiana $46,438
32 Maine $46,033
33 Georgia $46,007
34 Michigan $45,981
35 Ohio $45,749
36 Missouri $45,247
37 Florida $44,299
38 Montana $44,222
39 North Carolina $43,916
40 Idaho $43,341
41 Oklahoma $43,225
42 South Carolina $42,367
43 New Mexico $41,963
44 Louisiana $41,734
45 Tennessee $41,693
46 Alabama $41,415
47 Kentucky $41,141
48 Arkansas $38,758
49 West Virginia $38,482
50 Mississippi $36,919

IMHO, It's a shame that a state with such population, natural resources, and great geographical location can be 37th in the country for average household income.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:41 AM
 
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Based on 2011 numbers, The states rank as follows for "Median Household Income."
List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* I didn't list Washington D.C. as it's not a state.

Rank State
01 Maryland $70,004
02 Alaska $67,825
03 New Jersey $67,458
04 Connecticut $65,753
05 Massachusetts $62,859
06 New Hampshire $62,647
07 Virginia $61,882
08 Hawaii $61,821
09 Delaware $58,814
10 California $57,287
11 Minnesota $56,954
12 Washington $56,835
13 Wyoming $56,322
14 Utah $55,869
15 Colorado $55,387
16 New York $55,246
17 Rhode Island $53,636
18 Illinois $53,234
19 Vermont $52,776
20 North Dakota $51,704

United States Average $50,502

21 Wisconsin $50,395
22 Nebraska $50,296
23 Pennsylvania $50,228
24 Iowa $49,427
25 Texas $49,392
26 Kansas $48,964
27 Nevada $48,927
28 South Dakota $48,321
29 Oregon $46,816
30 Arizona $46,709
31 Indiana $46,438
32 Maine $46,033
33 Georgia $46,007
34 Michigan $45,981
35 Ohio $45,749
36 Missouri $45,247
37 Florida $44,299
38 Montana $44,222
39 North Carolina $43,916
40 Idaho $43,341
41 Oklahoma $43,225
42 South Carolina $42,367
43 New Mexico $41,963
44 Louisiana $41,734
45 Tennessee $41,693
46 Alabama $41,415
47 Kentucky $41,141
48 Arkansas $38,758
49 West Virginia $38,482
50 Mississippi $36,919

IMHO, It's a shame that a state with such population, natural resources, and great geographical location can be 37th in the country for average household income.
You know what is interesting about this list? Both Tennessee and North Carolina are always on the best places to live and work lists, yet they are below Florida in median household income? And North Carolina has the famed Research Triangle Park. Very interesting.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:12 AM
 
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You know what is interesting about this list? Both Tennessee and North Carolina are always on the best places to live and work lists, yet they are below Florida in median household income? And North Carolina has the famed Research Triangle Park. Very interesting.
Yes, and all the top ranked states have much higher cost of living than Florida. Even some of the lower ones like the Carolinas have state income taxes which drain one's income even more. I think Florida is doing all right. My husband and everyone he knows makes a good income here.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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I would hardly call it "a shame".




Quote:
Originally Posted by TXRyan23 View Post
Based on 2011 numbers, The states rank as follows for "Median Household Income."
List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* I didn't list Washington D.C. as it's not a state.

Rank State
01 Maryland $70,004
02 Alaska $67,825
03 New Jersey $67,458
04 Connecticut $65,753
05 Massachusetts $62,859
06 New Hampshire $62,647
07 Virginia $61,882
08 Hawaii $61,821
09 Delaware $58,814
10 California $57,287
11 Minnesota $56,954
12 Washington $56,835
13 Wyoming $56,322
14 Utah $55,869
15 Colorado $55,387
16 New York $55,246
17 Rhode Island $53,636
18 Illinois $53,234
19 Vermont $52,776
20 North Dakota $51,704

United States Average $50,502

21 Wisconsin $50,395
22 Nebraska $50,296
23 Pennsylvania $50,228
24 Iowa $49,427
25 Texas $49,392
26 Kansas $48,964
27 Nevada $48,927
28 South Dakota $48,321
29 Oregon $46,816
30 Arizona $46,709
31 Indiana $46,438
32 Maine $46,033
33 Georgia $46,007
34 Michigan $45,981
35 Ohio $45,749
36 Missouri $45,247
37 Florida $44,299
38 Montana $44,222
39 North Carolina $43,916
40 Idaho $43,341
41 Oklahoma $43,225
42 South Carolina $42,367
43 New Mexico $41,963
44 Louisiana $41,734
45 Tennessee $41,693
46 Alabama $41,415
47 Kentucky $41,141
48 Arkansas $38,758
49 West Virginia $38,482
50 Mississippi $36,919

IMHO, It's a shame that a state with such population, natural resources, and great geographical location can be 37th in the country for average household income.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:33 AM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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Originally Posted by TXRyan23 View Post
Based on 2011 numbers, The states rank as follows for "Median Household Income."
List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* I didn't list Washington D.C. as it's not a state.

Rank State
01 Maryland $70,004
02 Alaska $67,825
03 New Jersey $67,458
04 Connecticut $65,753
05 Massachusetts $62,859
06 New Hampshire $62,647
07 Virginia $61,882
08 Hawaii $61,821
09 Delaware $58,814
10 California $57,287
11 Minnesota $56,954
12 Washington $56,835
13 Wyoming $56,322
14 Utah $55,869
15 Colorado $55,387
16 New York $55,246
17 Rhode Island $53,636
18 Illinois $53,234
19 Vermont $52,776
20 North Dakota $51,704

United States Average $50,502

21 Wisconsin $50,395
22 Nebraska $50,296
23 Pennsylvania $50,228
24 Iowa $49,427
25 Texas $49,392
26 Kansas $48,964
27 Nevada $48,927
28 South Dakota $48,321
29 Oregon $46,816
30 Arizona $46,709
31 Indiana $46,438
32 Maine $46,033
33 Georgia $46,007
34 Michigan $45,981
35 Ohio $45,749
36 Missouri $45,247
37 Florida $44,299
38 Montana $44,222
39 North Carolina $43,916
40 Idaho $43,341
41 Oklahoma $43,225
42 South Carolina $42,367
43 New Mexico $41,963
44 Louisiana $41,734
45 Tennessee $41,693
46 Alabama $41,415
47 Kentucky $41,141
48 Arkansas $38,758
49 West Virginia $38,482
50 Mississippi $36,919

IMHO, It's a shame that a state with such population, natural resources, and great geographical location can be 37th in the country for average household income.
Oh, also.....you only listed 50 states. Where are the other 7 states?

I know you will get that.....LOL!
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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I got my data from the U.S. Census, not Wikipedia.

Florida QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Did you know:
Texas:
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2007-2011 17%
Florida:
Persons below poverty level, percent, 2007-2011 14.7%
Texas has 17 counties that are on the list of the 100 poorest counties in the U.S.
IMHO, It's a shame that a state with such population, natural resources, and great geographical location can have 17 of the top 100 poorest counties in the U.S.

Now tell me where those high paying entry level jobs are.



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Originally Posted by TXRyan23 View Post
Based on 2011 numbers, The states rank as follows for "Median Household Income."

List of U.S. states by income
37 Florida $44,299


IMHO, It's a shame that a state with such population, natural resources, and great geographical location can be 37th in the country for average household income.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Wake County, NC
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Originally Posted by PriusH8r View Post
You know what is interesting about this list? Both Tennessee and North Carolina are always on the best places to live and work lists, yet they are below Florida in median household income? And North Carolina has the famed Research Triangle Park. Very interesting.
I'm sure if you compared metro areas like RTP (Raleigh/Durham) and Tampa Bay the median income would be higher in NC.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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I'm sure if you compared metro areas like RTP (Raleigh/Durham) and Tampa Bay the median income would be higher in NC.
I'm not sure, as I have never had a reason to look that up. Given that we have a lot of retirees here, I am willing to bet you would be correct. That would be logical when comparing a major retiree location with a younger, mid career location. I just found it interesting when someone posted a list of state median incomes that two highly rated places to live and "work" actually had lower median incomes than Florida. Quite honestly, I did not expect that.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Wake County, NC
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Originally Posted by PriusH8r View Post
I'm not sure, as I have never had a reason to look that up. Given that we have a lot of retirees here, I am willing to bet you would be correct. That would be logical when comparing a major retiree location with a younger, mid career location. I just found it interesting when someone posted a list of state median incomes that two highly rated places to live and "work" actually had lower median incomes than Florida. Quite honestly, I did not expect that.
The "best places" are always Raleigh/Durham or Charlotte. There are some other nice places to live in the state but they don't have the economy of the two major metros. I have'nt looked at the numbers either, but think even the Triad(Winston-salem/Greensboro) might have a higher median income than Tampa Bay.
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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The "best places" are always Raleigh/Durham or Charlotte. There are some other nice places to live in the state but they don't have the economy of the two major metros. I have'nt looked at the numbers either, but think even the Triad(Winston-salem/Greensboro) might have a higher median income than Tampa Bay.
Nashville has been making the list as well.

But Florida is a state where a ton of retirees move to, so I would expect the median income to drop, as many retirees have lower annual incomes when they stop working. What was surprising to me in this "why do so many people hate FLORIDA" thread, was that the median income list provided showed Florida had a higher median income than both North Carolina and Tennessee. I never would have expected that, based on Florida being a hotspot for retirees and the other two states being places that are supposedly great places for careers.
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