04-22-2013, 06:59 AM
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My family and I will be relocating soon. My husband will be working in St Petersburg. We have zeroed in on Palm Harbor. We like the beach location and have school age children and the schools seem to be as good as where they are coming from. It seems like a good match for us all around. The more I read about insurance there though the more apprehensive I am getting. Can anyone explain the different types of insurance we would need on a home? I'm reading about sink hole insurance, hurricane insurance, wind damage insurance etc....It has me just about ready to back out of the move ! Any general figures on what we need and could expect to pay would be appreciated. We're looking to stay between about $150,000-$200,000 on a house. Also, the schools. Can anyone who has moved into the area from out of state tell me how it was for their kids adjusting to the schools there ? My one child is very outgoing and OK with the move, but I have a 13 year old who is not as outgoing and is very unhappy to be leaving her friends behind. Any insight into the Palm Harbor area would be great, thanks!
04-22-2013, 07:07 AM
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Insurance depends on the property you will be buying. If it is zoned for flood, then you'll need that and so on. If I were you, I would rent first, because that way you will have the opportunity to drive around and explore the different areas, and learn which area is zoned for what. Sink holes are more prevalent in Pasco county. Palm Harbor in in Pinellas. NOT saying Pinellas is immune to sink holes, however sink hole is not required in most areas of Pinellas. Buying a home right off the bat, without knowing the area 100% can turn out to be a big mistake. You can read a lot online about schools etc, but until you see them directly, you won't really know if you like them. I would be more worried with car insurance than homeowners. The general rule in FL is that the closer you get to the water, the more you pay, and not just in insurance costs.
04-22-2013, 02:49 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I had read a couple of articles that made it sound like you had to buy sink hole coverage - and the average price the article quoted was pretty steep. My husband is going down before us and will rent so hopefully he'll get a feeling for the area before I bring the kids down.
04-22-2013, 03:02 PM
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As for auto insurance, we were in NYC for a couple of years for my husband's work before we moved to where we are now - PA. I can't imagine it being any worse than there lol ! Thanks again.
It is out of control, get some quotes. We moved from one dormant zip code to another dormant one and with no other changes it spiked $400!
Its good he is coming first; he should be able to scout various areas and get a good grip before u come down.
04-22-2013, 06:29 PM
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My family and I will be relocating soon. My husband will be working in St Petersburg. We have zeroed in on Palm Harbor. We like the beach location and have school age children and the schools seem to be as good as where they are coming from. It seems like a good match for us all around. The more I read about insurance there though the more apprehensive I am getting. Can anyone explain the different types of insurance we would need on a home? I'm reading about sink hole insurance, hurricane insurance, wind damage insurance etc....It has me just about ready to back out of the move ! Any general figures on what we need and could expect to pay would be appreciated. We're looking to stay between about $150,000-$200,000 on a house. Also, the schools. Can anyone who has moved into the area from out of state tell me how it was for their kids adjusting to the schools there ? My one child is very outgoing and OK with the move, but I have a 13 year old who is not as outgoing and is very unhappy to be leaving her friends behind. Any insight into the Palm Harbor area would be great, thanks!
We live on the east side of Palm Harbor. We LOVE it. GREAT access to everything, less traffic and very very safe. Schools are awesome.
Insurance on our >$300,000 house is ~ $1,575/year,if I remember exactly. That is for full "great" coverage, with catastrophic ground collapse coverage. Even though we are not in a flood zone, we opted to purchase that separately for just a few hundred dollars a year.
04-23-2013, 03:39 AM
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Happy to hear such a positive review
It doesn't sound like our homeowners ins will be too bad if we watch where we live. I called our auto insurer yesterday and our car ins will increase about $800/year. Not too bad considering we'll lose our state and local taxes which are about 5% combined !
04-23-2013, 08:21 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I had read a couple of articles that made it sound like you had to buy sink hole coverage - and the average price the article quoted was pretty steep. My husband is going down before us and will rent so hopefully he'll get a feeling for the area before I bring the kids down.
Most lenders will require sink hole coverage... if not all. Ours did. Auto insurance is high in Florida because of PIP being required.
04-23-2013, 01:44 PM
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I think I read that the mortgage company's do require it, or at least the catastrophic coverage. Below is what I read that scared me so much about the cost of sink hole insurance:
"If approved, that means in Tampa the average premium for a sinkhole policy would increase from $156 to $3,651. In coastal Pasco County, rates would increase from $1,270 to $3,598. In coastal Hernando County, premiums would soar from $1,356 to $5,734." from
Some Citizens sinkhole rates could rise thousands of dollars
But as I read it through again, Pinellas cty was mentioned at the bottom and the rates were much lower, mid $200's which is a relief. We actually have a similar type issue in PA, due to past underground mining. They sell mine subsidence insurance for that here, about the same price.
04-23-2013, 06:11 PM
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We live in the northernmost part of Clearwater, literally a stone's throw from Palm Harbor, in a non-evac zone and are not required by our lender to pay either flood or sinkhole insurance. Our auto insurance went down a little after moving out of Gulfport/St Pete also. Becoming owners rather than renters also improved our auto insurance rate, so I'm not sure how much was attributed to the move and how much was the ownership status. Palm Harbor is a bit of a commute to St. Pete, but not terrible. Nonetheless, I agree renting is better at first. If you like Palm Harbor and the proximity to beaches, given your price range and the fact your husband is working in St. Pete, you may want to take a look a Seminole. Virtually sinkhole-free, lots of high ground and non-evac areas, a very decent area and some pretty good schools.
04-24-2013, 07:37 AM
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Thanks, I did look at Seminole and it does look like a nice area. I think the main attraction for Palm Harbor is the schools. The school district we're coming from is rated 10/10 on great schools and Palm Harbor is 9/10. Also many of my husbands coworkers live up in the Palm Harbor and surrounding neighborhood area. It will be nice to know at least a few people in the area we want to move into and they're really recommending the area as well.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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It doesn't sound like our homeowners ins will be too bad if we watch where we live. I called our auto insurer yesterday and our car ins will increase about $800/year. Not too bad considering we'll lose our state and local taxes which are about 5% combined !
