If You Thought Mass Transit Would Not Work..... (Jacksonville, Miami: transplants, condos)

[PhotoProIP]

Originally Posted by vaughanwilliams

I agree to a point. Big, empty buses are getting obsolete. But Tampa Bay is going to keep growing and mass transit (not necessarily buses) is going to have to be discussed as a viable option. We can't just keep cramming more cars on the road.

I don't disagree with you, however if we're going to have some sort of PT, then we should pioneer something now that we've been sprawled so much. People live in Land o Lakes and work at McDill...or St Pete...a slow bus is not the answer for these people. Let's be proud of something for a change.
We need something fast that people who work can use, and be comfortable in, and not feel like "Is today going to be the day I get mugged?"

[mrviking]

Originally Posted by vaughanwilliams

I agree to a point. Big, empty buses are getting obsolete. But Tampa Bay is going to keep growing and mass transit (not necessarily buses) is going to have to be discussed as a viable option. We can't just keep cramming more cars on the road.

Good to know there are no homeless or muggers on the subways/trains elsewhere. NOT!

[DUNNDFRNT]

Homeless and muggers same category, good to know all this time I thought homeless people were not criminals.

[MAniacTHW]

Originally Posted by mrviking

Good to know there are no homeless or muggers on the subways/trains elsewhere. NOT!

Good to know the homeless aren't a problem without mass transit.

[jp01358]

I guess people who are opposed to mass transit will always be opposed to it. I'm all for it. No, it's not gonna turn a profit. Neither will your roads. But it will offer those of us who absolutely hate sitting in traffic for an hour a better alternative.

I dunno if it'll ever happen here. It's already late for it. Stuff like this is why I really shake my head about the Tampa Bay area. I gotta get back to a city where people have a sense of community and actually care about the direction and future of the area.

[The Villages Guy]

Originally Posted by jp01358

I guess people who are opposed to mass transit will always be opposed to it. I'm all for it. No, it's not gonna turn a profit. Neither will your roads. But it will offer those of us who absolutely hate sitting in traffic for an hour a better alternative.

I dunno if it'll ever happen here. It's already late for it. Stuff like this is why I really shake my head about the Tampa Bay area. I gotta get back to a city where people have a sense of community and actually care about the direction and future of the area.

It's not about never wanting any of it. It's about being financially responsible. We cannot just spend current and future money on things that will benefit so few people, yet cost so many so much. There is not an endless money tree. Whatever is spent must be wise, efficient and benefit as many people as possible. There is not the demographics here, nor the layout for widespread mass transit to be functional to a capacity to make it a wise investment. However there are targeted opportunities which could work and are actually already part of a long term plan.

[tinytrump]

quote ::However there are targeted opportunities which could work and are actually already part of a long term plan.

Ok and that is?

[bavariantransplant]

Originally Posted by jp01358

I guess people who are opposed to mass transit will always be opposed to it. I'm all for it. No, it's not gonna turn a profit. Neither will your roads.

Roads do turn a profit. Without a well planned maintained road network an economy will come to a grinding halt. Roads do turn profit, roads are an investment. So do mass transit systems, when its viable.

[Not_liking_FL]

Originally Posted by mrviking

Good to know there are no homeless or muggers on the subways/trains elsewhere. NOT!

I can't understand why nothing changes around here.

[MiamiRob]

Originally Posted by BucFan

there very little about Miami that I like and there's no reason to try to copy anything happening down there

You don't have to copy anything! Your on your way to being the next Jacksonville!