How is the Tampa bay job market doing? (Lee: 2015, new home)

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by mrviking

Very true. When I started in construction back in the 80's I saw very few Hispanics doing any trade. The only thing I saw them doing was laying sod. African Americans were at least 20% of the workers on the job sites. When I left in 2007, Hispanics were over 65% of the workforce and increasing while African Americans were less then 5%. Luckily I was very good at my job and it was good to have a English speaking person to deal with the homeowners when a problem arises. The major contractors did not pay less to the Hispanics but over all wages became stagnate for everyone because of the large influx of workers. The over all quality of work was sub-par due to the inexperience of the workers, leading to the less then stellar homes being built. The homes looked good, but beneath the paint and caulk holding them together maintenance would be a challenge. Riding through work sites now, things have not changed for the better for sure.

Totally agree and I've seen that sub par quality on my own new house as well. They did a very poor paint job on the inside. We hired a handyman who is a pro level painter (white, from up north) and he said down here he sees that all the time because of the labor they hire to do these jobs.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by sinatras

A lot of people work remote jobs now. Jobs that are based in higher paying cities or regions and but you work from home (in Tampa Bay).

The old excuse of "Tampa Bay/Florida/the South salaries are crap" is no longer viable now that you can work from your home in Treasure Island and still make your Washington, D.C. salary.

I know many many many people who are doing this.

And of course the best part about this is that if you are based here, you make Chicago money but you don't pay Chicago taxes.

And what's their plan if they get laid off from their remote job?

You should never move to an area(and that goes for anywhere in the country) when you're basing it soley on your current job, and more so when it's a remote position. If it goes away you better be somewhere where you can find something else with an equivalent salary.

They're not going to see that kind of money in FL.

[wallyb2013]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

And what's their plan if they get laid off from their remote job?

You should never move to an area(and that goes for anywhere in the country) when you're basing it soley on your current job, and more so when it's a remote position. If it goes away you better be somewhere where you can find something else with an equivalent salary.

They're not going to see that kind of money in FL.

This is a very out-of-touch thing to say. Entire industries are remote now. As an example, I work remotely, but so do my peers in the industry. If I were to lose my current job (or decide to quit), I would call a friend who's with a competitor and have another job lined up within hours.

The same can be said for highly specialized positions. Even in very large cities, experienced professionals with a highly-specialized skill set will not be able to easily find another position if they lose their job due to downsizing or performance issues.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by wallyb2013

This is a very out-of-touch thing to say. Entire industries are remote now. As an example, I work remotely, but so do my peers in the industry. If I were to lose my current job (or decide to quit), I would call a friend who's with a competitor and have another job lined up within hours.

The same can be said for highly specialized positions. Even in very large cities, experienced professionals with a highly-specialized skill set will not be able to easily find another position if they lose their job due to downsizing or performance issues.

But for the large majority of people this isn't the case.

So what happens to these "highly specialized" positions if one loses their job and can't find a new one easily? They end up in retail or other low end crap pay?

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by wallyb2013

This is a very out-of-touch thing to say. Entire industries are remote now. As an example, I work remotely, but so do my peers in the industry. If I were to lose my current job (or decide to quit), I would call a friend who's with a competitor and have another job lined up within hours.

The same can be said for highly specialized positions. Even in very large cities, experienced professionals with a highly-specialized skill set will not be able to easily find another position if they lose their job due to downsizing or performance issues.

Out of touch? LOL, apparently you don't know too much about economics or pay attention to what's going on, we're going to have a recession.

So don't think you can just get another job in a few hours forever. That is very rare anyway. You're using your unique situation to land another job.

The higher level the job, the more hoops you have to jump through(AKA the hiring process being dragged out and could go on for months...not hours).

And do you not get that in a large city while there may be more competition there are also more opportunities.

If you plant yourself in a place like Tampa based on a job that is thousands of miles away, and get laid off you could end up in trouble.

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

But for the large majority of people this isn't the case.

So what happens to these "highly specialized" positions if one loses their job and can't find a new one easily? They end up in retail or other low end crap pay?

Thank you, my point exactly.

I am always amazed when I see people post on CD about moving(and this just doesn't pertain to FL) and they say "jobs aren't an issue as I work from home", ASS-uming that particular job is always going to be there.

[a person]

Originally Posted by wallyb2013

This is a very out-of-touch thing to say. Entire industries are remote now. As an example, I work remotely, but so do my peers in the industry. If I were to lose my current job (or decide to quit), I would call a friend who's with a competitor and have another job lined up within hours.

The same can be said for highly specialized positions. Even in very large cities, experienced professionals with a highly-specialized skill set will not be able to easily find another position if they lose their job due to downsizing or performance issues.

I think to assume a local job market is doing well because you can just get a remote job now is the real out-of-touch thing to say. There are so many professions and jobs of all types/pay grades that are most certainly *not* remote. Many, many people are going to be dependent on the actual local economy.

[sinatras]

Many people can choose to live where they want because their profession is based on telecommuting.

I live in Tampa but the local job market does not affect me or my profession. There are many many people like me here.

[a person]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Many people can choose to live where they want because their profession is based on telecommuting.

I live in Tampa but the local job market does not affect me or my profession. There are many many people like me here.

I am, too. That doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat. Especially places like here with so many service and medical related jobs. You can't be a work from home cardiac nurse.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by a person

I am, too. That doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat. Especially places like here with so many service and medical related jobs. You can't be a work from home cardiac nurse.

I was going to say the same thing. Hard to work remote being a doctor, nurse or lawyer. Seems those are the only really high paying jobs down here.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by a person

I am, too. That doesn't mean everyone else is in the same boat. Especially places like here with so many service and medical related jobs. You can't be a work from home cardiac nurse.

Yup, that's true. But more and more jobs are becoming remote. Not all, but many.