Do royal palms and coconut palms grow in Tampa or is it too fat north?

[floridaguy954]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

...and citrus groves keep moving further south....to escape the freezes that are becoming more frequent

Tampa temperatures have increase 1/2 degree in 180 years > http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/St...5-TAVG-Raw.png

..and temperatures have actually decreased at Macdill > http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/St...5-TAVG-Raw.png

How about you show the full data of your own source instead of cherrypicking a chart that appears to fit your narrative.

Berkeley Earth

Mean daily high temperatures for Tampa have increased ~1.25ºC (2.25ºF)
Mean daily low temperatures have increased ~1.5ºC (2.7ºF)

And while mean rate of change/century slowed locally (well...from 1960-1990 that is), it is still shown to have increased for the US, North America, the northern hemisphere, and the global climates during that time period.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by floridaguy954

How about you show the full data of your own source instead of cherrypicking a chart that appears to fit your narrative.

Berkeley Earth

Mean daily high temperatures for Tampa have increased ~1.25ºC (2.25ºF)
Mean daily low temperatures have increased ~1.5ºC (2.7ºF)

And while mean rate of change/century slowed locally (well...from 1960-1990 that is), it is still shown to have increased for the US, North America, the northern hemisphere, and the global climates during that time period.

The groves are all but gone thanks to greening sickness and building homes. His or her data is coming from another planet.

[LKJ1988]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

...and citrus groves keep moving further south....to escape the freezes that are becoming more frequent

Tampa temperatures have increase 1/2 degree in 180 years > http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/St...5-TAVG-Raw.png

..and temperatures have actually decreased at Macdill > http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/St...5-TAVG-Raw.png

You are in dream land. I have had one day in the last 8 years that was below 32f and i am north of Tampa. Vs year after year of temps of 19f to 26f back in the 80's.

[Sydneycarton]

Thanks for the replies.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by floridaguy954

How about you show the full data of your own source instead of cherrypicking a chart that appears to fit your narrative.

Berkeley Earth

Mean daily high temperatures for Tampa have increased ~1.25ºC (2.25ºF)
Mean daily low temperatures have increased ~1.5ºC (2.7ºF)

And while mean rate of change/century slowed locally (well...from 1960-1990 that is), it is still shown to have increased for the US, North America, the northern hemisphere, and the global climates during that time period.

....that's in over 100 years....no one noticed

The graphs I posted are not cherry picking anything....that's measured temperatures at Tampa airport and the military base

Measured temperatures at the airport have increased less than 1 degree in almost 200 years > http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/St...5-TAVG-Raw.png

and measured temperatures at the base Macdill have slightly decreased in 70 years > http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/auto/St...5-TAVG-Raw.png

..and both are Berkeley....actual measured temperatures

..don't like it?...tuff....let Berkeley know...it's their numbers