Where in Downtown Tampa/St Pete & Downtown Miami & Downtown Orlando are the closest in crowds to Times Square NYC? (Miami Beach: rent, how much)

[Grain077]

I have multiple professional-level certifications/licenses in Cisco/Cloud & years of experience. I am currently in the far remote edges of northern Upstate New York near Canada, in a small town of a few hundred people, and I'm looking to exit.

My reason for wanting to exit is because it is impossible for any single man who graduated college/school in the Adirondacks to ever be in a relationship, regardless of his verbal skills & talent. A situation like this will destroy the prospects of children & family & sex & any kind of a personal life for any men. Men are inferior second class citizens here, and women/girls have far more unprecedented POWER & call the shots in these remote places. In the Adirondacks, men only have the weekend nights to meet people (2 out of 7), and women have every day (7 out of 7), pretty much anytime they want. Online Dating doesn't count, and it's not the same as real-life normal non-cowardly communication. Girls are 10000x more interested when it's in person and not by text/online.

I've had stints/vacations & contracts in New York City and other cities, and in those times there were days I've approached 40 to 100 girls/women in a day, to amazing results. I have done exceedingly well with girls when there were these crowds. On the flip side, in the Adirondacks after college, I have gone years without talking to ONE girl (after graduation), involuntarily, by the simple fact that there's no one out, despite being very much able to on many days, so many weeks/years were wasted. This means that you just get older & creepier by the time you're in a city of lots of people.

Florida is a state I've wanted to be in from the beginning of my life, and I visited there in my younger years. I love LOTS about Florida. I love Publix, I love Wawa, I thrive in hot & warm weather and WANT it all the time.

I am torn between going to New York City, or Florida, or both sequentially.

New York City & Florida ALL have their pros & cons which seem very different.

New York City may have far more people roaming around, BUT the rent is heavily expensive & the winters suck. Those are the only NYC downsides, and one I'm willing to take.

Florida is better in every single way, except for the crowds compared to New York City, and NYC might be safer. If there was a Times Square in Florida in the course of my commute & near the residence, moving to Florida would be a no-brainer.

The aspect of crowd size ultimately skews the balance for me.

I said this before, but I know the crowds will be much lesser in Florida than they would be in New York City, that's a given.

The question is HOW MUCH LOWER are the crowds in amount and is it SO MUCH LOWER that override Florida's benefits over NYC.

If I'm working in the downtown areas in each of these respective cities (exclusing Disney World), where could I go that has a vast amount of people, that's the closest in resembling Times Square?

Is Miami Beach the only crowded spot in Miami, and is downtown Miami/Brickell a relative ghost town compared to London & Philly & NYC? Is Sparkman's Wharf the most crowded spot in Tampa? I know Disney World is crowded which is good, but how does DOWNTOWN Orlando compare percentage-wise?

As a single working person, I am interested in DAYTIME/evening things, and not into nightlife where I start getting sleepy & tired & constrained.

Are the beach areas the better bet if Downtown is emptier? Are the downtown streets much emptier's than London/Philly/NYC?

I'm interested in knowing before proceeding.

Thank you!

[kingsdl76]

There is no where in Miami, Tampa or Orlando that even comes close to the vibe and scale of people found in Times Square. As a matter of fact, no where in the entire US is there anything that remotely resembles Times Square in any form or fashion...

The only area in all of north America that resembles Times Square is Younge-Dundas square in Toronto.

[Lillie767]

Stay where you are. Florida isn't for you.

[071402]

Nothing compares to NYC. Not even Paris or London.

[CapnTrips]

The area in FL with the most people, the most jobs, and most expensive costs, is the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area.

If you're coming from upstate NY in February and you like daytime stuff, don't forget the suntan lotion!

[gypsychic]

Pick/stay in NYC - you won't like it here.

[Trip Mcnealy]

Are you interested in dense crowds or picking up random chicks? These arent mutually exclusive. A single guy with a job wouldnt have a hard time meeting women in Tampa.

[theurbanfiles]

I'd say the area near Lincoln Road at it's southern end and certain stretches of Ocean Drive come closest, along with Disney Springs or CityWalk among areas open to public, but as others have stated, not even close, even Yonge Dundas though it looks similar wouldn't quite match it.

Avenida Madero in CDMX is the only place in North America that matches Times Square in terms of crowds, sensory feel, vibrancy etc, though minus the neon/billboards lol.

As to your other questions, hard to say until you experience it down here to say whether it would actually be different.

[PDF]

Times Square is gross. I grew up in Tampa, now live in NYC. Florida is not for you, but neither is Times Square. What you should really be asking is if there's anywhere in Florida that matches the vibrancy of Manhattan? And that answer is no.

[MortonR]

I'll pile on here as well.

Florida is NOT for you, buddy.

To add to all of the previous comments, your Cisco certs are worth maybe 50%-75% of their market value here versus what they would command in a major east coast metropolitan area.

RM