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I have the Tampa skyline tattooed on my shoulder. However, I will agree that USF isn't a top school, as everyone (teacher wise) has always told me or my friends to stray away from it.
USF spends alot on research but you dont see any discoveries??? Do you read the newspapers or watch the news, or even look at any reserach publications..here is one>>Newsletter of the Vice President for Research & Innovation
And Moffit Cancer center is all you can think of, when the school receives numerous acolades for its Urban Transportation Center; College of Engineering; Shriners and Eye Institutes, College of Education, as well as premeire athletics program. Its one of the nations top universities for research in Alzheimers and Parkinsons diseases.
Tampa lacks culture?? what is missing exactly? And remember, Tampa is a small city of about 350k, but I find there is alot of culture in this city, have you actually looked at sites like these>> Arts Council of Hillsborough County Tampa Bay Businesses for Culture & the Arts Creative Tampa Bay
The largest Performing Arts Center in the southeast, Independant theater companies, Museums, Film and Art Festivals(lots of them), a unique rich history from the Indians to the Cigar Capital, Art Galleries....
No Skyline?? This one makes me chuckle, sure its not NY, Chicago, LA, San Fran, etc....but for the 55th most populous city, Tampa has a nice skyline(albeit a small one - to go along with a small city).
Nightlife - there arent many small cities in the country that can boast having more than one concentrated areas of nightlife(Ybor City, Channelside, Hyde Park/SoHo, Westshore/Bay Street, South Tampa neighborhoods - one unique from the rest - and thats just in the city of Tampa).
And it is a preference as far as what a young professional is looking for, sure cities like NY, Chicago, etc. offer more, but do you want to LIVE in those cities?? Some do and some dont.
Well Tampaguy I am glad to see that you ardently support your city--that is great!!! But even reading all that you have listed I still don't see Tampa as being impressive at all. Don't get me wrong it is NOT a bad city, you have alot of opportunities;I for one can attest to getting alot accomplished in this city personally,finacially, and academically. The nightlife that you mentioned is mediocre at best. But I am not much into that hippity hoppity scene at Ybor. Channelside and Hyde Park are not bad--I will give you that.
But you must remember this is forum is where we state our personal prefrences regarding our outlook on certain things i.e cities. You may in fact think lovely things about the culture and arts here--but there isn't much to be said about it. I can speak for myself Tampa is no longer for me. Yes I read the papers and I receive many journals from USF from the dept grad/undergrad schools I graduated from and I think its great that millions are always being poured into research--When I was there I can recall one of their goals was to be a world renowned school for innovative research and discoveries. I am not going to take away credit from USF because some have benefited from the research. And that is wonderful.
I mention Moffitt because I KNOW first hand what is being done there to find a cure for cancer. I would see it first hand all the time while I was there. I have great friends who are immunologists there now and when I talk with them regularly to see how things are coming along; they work effortlessly to find that cure. For that I am proud to be an Alumni there.
You say tomatoe, I say tomato--as far as the skyline it is null.
I must also say thank you for editing your original comment. You come off less brash now and much more sensical
I graduated from USF years ago and to me I didn't think highly of the school
Can I presume by this that you graduated summa *** laude. USF being such a terrible school, highest honors must have come easily for you. Was it difficult to pick a job upon graduation, having been inundated with the most fabulous offers from so many recruiters here?
Does it make sense to not think well of a school which has garnered Kiplinger.com 's "100 Best Values in Public Colleges 2009-10"
"the overall rankings for both in-state students and out-of-state students, cost, quality measures or financial aid measures... "
"Kiplinger’s bases its rankings on a combination of academics and affordability. We start with data from more than 500 public four-year colleges and universities, provided by Peterson’s/Nelnet, then add our own reporting.
We narrow the list to about 120 schools based on measures of academic quality -- including SAT or ACT scores, admission and retention rates, student-faculty ratios, and four- and six-year graduation rates, which most schools reported for the class entering in 2002..."
Is it typical for you to think lowly of a school which was recently ranked by the Princeton Review as both being in their top 371 schools in the country as well as being a "Best Southeastern College"?
Why is it that the facts do not seem to support your opinion?
A student can attend Harvard yet get a terrible education (I don't know which president might come to mind, do you?) or you can go to the worst state school and get an excellent education. Ya think it has something to do with the student?
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Yes USF spends alot on research but I don't see any new discoveries being made there
If you are right about that, then how do you account for this:
TAMPA - The University of South Florida ranks 35th nationwide in patent research, The Patent Board's 2008 Universities Patent Scorecard shows.
The Chicago-based institution tracks and analyzes the business value of patent assets. The scorecard includes ratings of industry impact, links to science and numbers of patents.
"Patents are one of the primary foundations of innovation," said Rod Casto, USF's associate vice president for technology development. "They provide protection for ideas so that further investments in research, development, and commercialization will occur."
Boy, what a bunch of slackers.
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The surrounding area is deplorable. I will not get started on that......
The median household income of USF adjacent Temple Terrace was $54,472 in 2008. Can I assume that you could easily purchase one of the golf course homes in Temple Terrace with the money you saved from that aforementioned fabulous job offered you here? Or maybe you already live in one of those deplorable riverfront houses on their lushly landscaped 1/2 acre lots? Ick, what a horrible place to live that must be.
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Tampa lacks culture and as far as nightlife it is very minimal. And we don't have a skyline. Nightlife can come in many forms depending on who you are talking to. I like theater and the arts and this city lacks in that department.
As to the skyline. That's personal taste, of course. I happen to enjoy it. It is new and clean and crisp. I very much enjoy driving west on 275 when I suddenly see it.
However, this is not Washington DC nor New York City where you could not properly do all the museums in a month or a year. How many cities do you suppose are like that? Most cities have a few museums, some theater, not unlike here. Tampa is by no means inadequate in that department.
As to the nightlife, again, here is not much different than elsewhere. I speak from a lot of nightlife experience. I actually picked Tampa for relocation because I'd have access to nightlife when I want it, deciding, actually, on where you described as the deplorable area--having already lived in NYC areas, the Caribbean, downtown Fort Lauderdale, etc.
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I personally think this state is for retirees or for those who are married and want to raise your family,but even with that said you must look carefully into which area you chose to settle down in .
According to Florida Median Age, the median age here is younger than the rest of the country. It shows that in Tampa the median age is just under 35. City-Data shows FL median age to be 38.7 years. Ick, I see old people.
Now lets see if the stats see old people or if that is just what you see...
Here's your so-called deplorable area...
Here's one of the downtown areas (the heights)
and here's a south Tampa area
So just where are all of those offensive retired people of which you speak? It's like....their....taking over!!!! Quick, get out of town while you can. And again I will ask: why is it that the facts do not seem to support your opinion?
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I would look into other states that are far more economically sound and progressive.
Tampa is actually quite progressive which you can see even in the details of its city planning if you were to bother studying such things so that you might notice. But you have to be able to look outside yourself in order to see.
Lastly, as is not untypical of some of the posts I've read here by others but which I no longer bother with: why is it that the facts do not seem to support your opinion?
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Originally Posted by chica_bella813
Tampa doesn't have much to offer--I fall in that category of one trying to get out of here.
So, good luck in your future endeavors. Perhaps you will find happiness elsewhere. Please be careful that the door doesn't hit you on your way out.
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Can I presume by this that you graduated summa *** laude. USF being such a terrible school, highest honors must have come easily for you. Was it difficult to pick a job upon graduation, having been inundated with the most fabulous offers from so many recruiters here?
Does it make sense to not think well of a school which has garnered Kiplinger.com 's "100 Best Values in Public Colleges 2009-10"
"the overall rankings for both in-state students and out-of-state students, cost, quality measures or financial aid measures... "
"Kiplinger’s bases its rankings on a combination of academics and affordability. We start with data from more than 500 public four-year colleges and universities, provided by Peterson’s/Nelnet, then add our own reporting.
We narrow the list to about 120 schools based on measures of academic quality -- including SAT or ACT scores, admission and retention rates, student-faculty ratios, and four- and six-year graduation rates, which most schools reported for the class entering in 2002..."
Is it typical for you to think lowly of a school which was recently ranked by the Princeton Review as both being in their top 371 schools in the country as well as being a "Best Southeastern College"?
Why is it that the facts do not seem to support your opinion?
A student can attend Harvard yet get a terrible education (I don't know which president might come to mind, do you?) or you can go to the worst state school and get an excellent education. Ya think it has something to do with the student?
If you are right about that, then how do you account for this:
TAMPA - The University of South Florida ranks 35th nationwide in patent research, The Patent Board's 2008 Universities Patent Scorecard shows.
The Chicago-based institution tracks and analyzes the business value of patent assets. The scorecard includes ratings of industry impact, links to science and numbers of patents.
"Patents are one of the primary foundations of innovation," said Rod Casto, USF's associate vice president for technology development. "They provide protection for ideas so that further investments in research, development, and commercialization will occur."
Boy, what a bunch of slackers.
The median household income of USF adjacent Temple Terrace was $54,472 in 2008. Can I assume that you could easily purchase one of the golf course homes in Temple Terrace with the money you saved from that aforementioned fabulous job offered you here? Or maybe you already live in one of those deplorable riverfront houses on their lushly landscaped 1/2 acre lots? Ick, what a horrible place to live that must be.
As to the skyline. That's personal taste, of course. I happen to enjoy it. It is new and clean and crisp. I very much enjoy driving west on 275 when I suddenly see it.
However, this is not Washington DC nor New York City where you could not properly do all the museums in a month or a year. How many cities do you suppose are like that? Most cities have a few museums, some theater, not unlike here. Tampa is by no means inadequate in that department.
As to the nightlife, again, here is not much different than elsewhere. I speak from a lot of nightlife experience. I actually picked Tampa for relocation because I'd have access to nightlife when I want it, deciding, actually, on where you described as the deplorable area--having already lived in NYC areas, the Caribbean, downtown Fort Lauderdale, etc.
According to Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowed, the median age here is younger than the rest of the country. It shows that in Tampa the median age is just under 35. City-Data shows FL median age to be 38.7 years. Ick, I see old people.
Now lets see if the stats see old people or if that is just what you see...
Here's your so-called deplorable area...
Here's one of the downtown areas (the heights)
and here's a south Tampa area
So just where are all of those offensive retired people of which you speak? It's like....their....taking over!!!! Quick, get out of town while you can. And again I will ask: why is it that the facts do not seem to support your opinion?
Tampa is actually quite progressive which you can see even in the details of its city planning if you were to bother studying such things so that you might notice. But you have to be able to look outside yourself in order to see.
Lastly, as is not untypical of some of the posts I've read here by others but which I no longer bother with: why is it that the facts do not seem to support your opinion?
So, good luck in your future endeavors. Perhaps you will find happiness elsewhere. Please be careful that the door doesn't hit you on your way out.
I find you to be very very funny....I don't use this forum as a means to debate and debaucle anything is merely amusement but based on your rhetoric you seem to be highly offended by my remarks. Why would I waste my time proving anything to you??!! I don't regard you that highly.
I am not sure if you are a graduate of USF or not.I don't know if you went to grad school or not. I was and I and other collegues of mine know what I am talking about. What University did you attend?? How were your GRE scores?? As far as job offers--OH yes inundated with them after graudation. I continue to be--No problem there. Why are you fervently so defensive about my remarks?? You have misconstrued a large portion of what I have said. Perhaps you are having a bad day and needed to blow off steam somewhere.....
I was an alumni there and I am not saying that it is horrible but I didn't find it to be that great. Everyone's experience is different. What was your experience at USF or in grad school??
But I am grateful for the education and opportunities that I have obtained from that instituition.
And you mentioned the median income of the Temple Terrace area--what was your point??? Honestly what was your point?? The Temple Terrace area isn't for me--not only that Temple Terrace isn't the only surrounding area adjacent to USF--are you aware of that??
Buying a home on the "prestigious golf course" as you call it--You are hilarious, I own homes in the bay area none which are in that area--but I do not go into detail about any of my personal life on these forums that isn't necessary. Perhaps you must think highly of yourself if you fall into that particuliar bracket. Kudos for you!!!
Yes I will be successful in all my endeavors and the door will NEVER hit me on my way out of here or elsewhere--When you are not pompous and repugnant; opportunities will ALWAYS follow you wherever you go--therefore the doors have and always remained opened for me!!! Thank you deary!!!
Perhaps with the verocity and passion you used to state your facts and figures here you feel accomplished--good for you, if that is what makes you happy and if that is what keeps you afloat in life--well done my friend!!!
I like that high level of near 50 year old's. Much better crowd then my own age. Don't hurt me.
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I don't use this forum as a means to debate and debaucle anything is merely amusement but based on your rhetoric you seem to be highly offended by my remarks. Why would I waste my time proving anything to you??!! I don't regard you that highly.
You have misconstrued a large portion of what I have said. Perhaps you are having a bad day and needed to blow off steam somewhere.....
