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Old 03-07-2009, 06:56 AM
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According to Florida law, dentists are responsible for informing patients and obtaining informed consent. This is in an effort to avoid communication errors and misunderstandings.

I would call a lawyer, I looked at the FL statues and did not find anything that says they are required to do Xrays. They are just telling you this because they figure you won't take it further.

I did find where there was a portion in the new patient forum from the info above that stated how much the xray was and you and had to agree to it.

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Old 03-11-2009, 03:51 PM
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Hi there,

I took two years before I took the leap to go to the Philippines from Australia to have some crowns done. I was going to get 10 on the top done and the price in Australia was exhorbitant beyond belief. I knew quite a few people who had been up there to get their teeth done - however I was never happy with what I saw - even though the owners of the 'new teeth' were happy. I think anyone going to the Phils to dentistry should not go on price alone. They should also do as much research as possible - on the types of crowns - that are best for you. ( I settled on emax ). When you ask for a quote from a dentist they will normally quote you on PFMs (porcelain to metal) as they are the cheapest type of crown - however in saying that , they are also extremely strong. After two days of treatment - I quickly noticed the 'attention to detail' with the work the dentist did. In fact I was amazed. After two days I decided that the opportunity to have all my teeth replaced was an opportunity not to be missed. Ok, it cost me more money - however, the more I spent - the more I saved. I was going broke saving money !! Not really - but the

finished job was way beyond what I would expect. As to what I saved ? Well, I got a quote here before I went on the initial work - and then on return to Australia I rang another dentist who specialises with crowns in Melbourne. (for a start he had never heard of emax crowns (they are quite a recent relevation !) - and the difference in what I paid to the quote from the dentist in Melbourne was around $50,000 Australian Dollars. That is amazing !

All I can say is to anyone going to the PHils for dentistry - take you time to research EVERYTHING - and don't just try to get it all done in 8 days. You need, I think at least 2 weeks, as your teeth need to 'settle' a little...and any problems (I had none) can be ironed out.

things like where to stay - what to do on days off - what to be careful of - security - money changing - how to pay the dentist etc. I took plenty of notes on a daily basis and am happy to pass on any information to you FOC !

I guess one of the factors for many people going to the Philippines for Medical/dental treatment is one of 'fear of the unknown" - usually put out there by our local dentists or doctors. I can say that my decision to get all my teeth done was also based on the poor dentistry I had received here in Australia. In fact I can say that I was embarrassed with it once I saw it with the probe camera my dentist used. Mind you,

they were professional enough not to even mention it - but I could see it myself.

I have no qualms of ever going back to my dentist - and recommend to anyone, providing they do their research to go ahead - I have made some great new friends up there as well.

the S

One of the things I discovered when researching this project was the outlandish

profits the dentists are making in western countries. I was disgusted in the

information I unearthed - (willing to share !).

I also came across a newspaper article a week or so ago - regarding alisted company here in Australia called 1300smiles. Let me quote just one paragraph

"Shareholders can expect a bonus after the company announced its half year fully franked dividend would be up 35 percent a share to 5.4c and up 35 percent from December 2007. The MD said that the groups net profit after tax was growing faster than revenus meaining the group had reached critical mass in terms of growth and profitability. "We now operate on a scale that enables us to increase the net profit after tax faster than revenue," he said.

This must be about the only company to have its share price go up by 35 percent while every other share on the market has crashed to never before seen LOWS.

Crooked teeth, rotten teeth, missing teeth and just plain ugly teeth can really make a persons life a misery. I know some people who are afraid to smile. No ones deserves that.

Dentisty is about health as well as cosmetics. My God, even I was suffering from depression when I looked at my old teeth in the mirror !!! But thanks to my wonderful, caring and affordable dentist in Manila those days are behind me.

Any queries , happy to answer !

The S

PS: I met an American lady ( a nurse ) while I was at the Dentists in Manila. She was about 28 and all of her top teeth had gone rotten. Her dentist in the States told her that it would cost ...wait for it ...$59,000 to have them completely replaced. That is USD !! She told me he offered her finance.... and at $900 a month it was more than her mortgage !! She told me she saved up for six months .....SIX MONTHS and had enough to get the job done in Manila. I have her email address as I have had correspondence from her since I returned a few weeks ago. Maybe she will be willing to share her experience etc. As the USD has strengthed so much in the past 6 months - I am sure her cost would have been no more than about 15% or the quote in the STates ...... although I have not confirmed that - I am only going on what I got done.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:48 PM
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Default Family Dentistry of Hernando Cty

They will tell you it is a panoramic xray is a Florida Law - it makes good business for them - $69.00 from everyone - Insurance does not cover ( or mine didn't) and they knew it!

The BBB was no help at all. This dentist does not belong to the BBB so they don't have any pull.

Action News 10 Tampa hopefully will have them on the news soon!
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:55 PM
Location: Tampa, FL
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Ask them to quote the statute.
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Old 03-24-2009, 01:40 PM
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If you are a dentist it is but it isn't a law. It was just their way of getting $69 from you without going through insurance.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:20 PM
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Brenda, this is horrible! I hope Action News does decide to pick up on this. I'd love to hear what the *law* really says. Don't you imagine if they are asked about the Panoramic x-rays that they will simply state "it's THEIR policy" and you simply "misunderstood" that it was a state policy? What else can they do, if they have, in fact, been deceptive? Stinkers!!!
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:58 PM
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ABC Action News 10 called me today and they can not help. They called the dentist and informed Action News 10 I was told of the charges upfront.

This is a total lie. If they had told me upfront I would have left! If they told me upfront why would I be so upset and want my money back?

Why would I have called the BBB, Florida Dental Assoc, action news, wrote a letter to Obama, Biden and whistleblowers?

Bottom line is - find out in WRITING before you go through the door what you will be charged!
They could have easily charged for all sorts of procedures costing thousands and I would have never known the difference.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:31 AM
Location: Tampa, FL
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LOL, you wrote a letter to the President about a $69 dental x-ray?
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Old 04-11-2009, 07:15 PM
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It is about the business practice not the money at this point. They could have easily charged $1000 for services and they are not required to inform
you beforehand.

Get my point now?

Yes, I wrote letters to all those people. The Florida Board of Dentisty responded - They sided with the dentist. So I guess it is legal SO make sure you ask for charges upfront in writing.
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:35 AM
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does anyone know which government or help agencies could help with a dental office that constantly mangled info and submissions to dental insurance for over 1 year so now it is past the limit the insurance will pay and I owe $2000 that would have been covered? It's not the dental care, it's the insurance filing incompetence. Where would I get help?
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