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Old 03-22-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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Well.....who would know more specifics about the job availability situation in Florida/Tampa than someone who is in the information loop and actually competing/interviewing for jobs that require technical skills......thanks for the accurate update. Whats absolutely hilarious about this thread is posters from out of state from 1000s of miles away feeling the need to report on the Florida/Tampa job availability situation when they have no actual current personal involvement in a job search there to actually know whats going on first hand ? Providing inaccurate negative information doesn't help anyone and only serves to fuel the impression that things are worse than they really are when in reality theres improvement.

Exactly. And the point housecrashsurvivor missed is his bud, I think from Alaska posted his/her concerns about relocating to Tampa from Austin as he/she is an IT profressional as myself. I simply wanted to shed light on his/her concerns about relocating to Tampa when in fact IT job opportunities are doing well now in the Tampa area and getting better each day. So being in IT he/she should have 0.0 fear about relocating to this great area. Those funzies unemployment numbers housecrashing survivor was stuck on were N/A to my point. Don't get me wrong Austin is a great place. They have just as many fortune 100/500 companies as this area, give or take a few. I wouldn't want to live there because being an Eagles fan the Dallas Cowboy fans would make me vomit. If you're an IT professional and looking for work in the Tampa area it's no where near as bad as reflected by the Tampa unemployment rate. And thank you. I have researched this area "bigtime" for IT job opportunities besides funzies "eyebrows raised" monster hits. The unemployment rate may be accurate but certianly does not paint the entire Tampa AREA job market for IT opportunites and probably some others. I know because I been on the front line researching this for awhile not just googling unemployment rates and depressed Florda news links.
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:35 AM
 
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Default The answer as promised:

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It's not that they don't get it.......they get it....but that is really irrelevant!


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That's why they keep laying workers off. They don't get it.

They also don't understand that the cheaper the price, the more work will be made available. When I get a licensed electrician who is between jobs for $20 an hour, I can find much more work for him to do than a contracting company that charges $100+ an hour for a 2-man crew and a truck.
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:09 AM
 
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Again its all about job opportunities and the Tampa area has plenty of them....Sounds like you lost your job and can't find one. Think positive !
Pernicious and presumptuous but I do appreciate the encouragement. If only you could pick a sentiment and stick with it (kidding).

Actually I retired at 49 only to find, three years later, that I didn't care for it, so I'm changing my life again, headed back to school to start my 3rd career as soon as I decide on what I want to be when I grow up, having already enjoyed 10 years in construction and 20 years in publishing. I'm considering a helping field such as nursing, teaching, social work or the like and have found a place to live near where many such jobs are located as I do not care for long commutes.

I relocated to Tampa both because I'd spent 16 years in my last home with only a 1/4 acre and I wanted to do a bigger garden. Also, as I believe the government spending today will make life very expensive tomorrow, I wanted to decrease my cost of living into the future and as I was dealing with too many deaths of loved ones in south Florida, I just wanted a fresh start. I picked Tampa not because I thought it a bad place to be, but because I've lived here before, always liked the place and thought it dealt well with a number of my current and what I believe will be my future issues.

The numbers that I quoted I did not make up out of thin air, they are all independently verifiable. And while I'm happy for you that you had a good experience in finding work here, your individual, personal experience does not speak as evidence for the economy as a whole. You saying that there are lots of opportunity here when unemployment is so high would be like me saying that all our real estate problems have been solved because I just got a good price on my house.

I do have faith in Tampa, however, and I believe this to be a good place to live, to find work, to enjoy life. I wanted to maintain my Florida homestead and port my significant save our home value with me, but within that I could have selected just about anywhere in this state to live. So it is not that I am bashing this area at all by acknowleging the real problems of unemployment it is currently facing. I've gotten jobs in the past that 100s of people went after which makes me pretty sure I could get a job tomorrow if I wanted one. So your assessment that my take on the unemployment level here in Tampa might in anyway reflect my own situation could not be more wrong.
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Old 05-04-2010, 08:17 PM
 
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Pernicious and presumptuous but I do appreciate the encouragement. If only you could pick a sentiment and stick with it (kidding).

Actually I retired at 49 only to find, three years later, that I didn't care for it, so I'm changing my life again, headed back to school to start my 3rd career as soon as I decide on what I want to be when I grow up, having already enjoyed 10 years in construction and 20 years in publishing. I'm considering a helping field such as nursing, teaching, social work or the like and have found a place to live near where many such jobs are located as I do not care for long commutes.

I relocated to Tampa both because I'd spent 16 years in my last home with only a 1/4 acre and I wanted to do a bigger garden. Also, as I believe the government spending today will make life very expensive tomorrow, I wanted to decrease my cost of living into the future and as I was dealing with too many deaths of loved ones in south Florida, I just wanted a fresh start. I picked Tampa not because I thought it a bad place to be, but because I've lived here before, always liked the place and thought it dealt well with a number of my current and what I believe will be my future issues.

The numbers that I quoted I did not make up out of thin air, they are all independently verifiable. And while I'm happy for you that you had a good experience in finding work here, your individual, personal experience does not speak as evidence for the economy as a whole. You saying that there are lots of opportunity here when unemployment is so high would be like me saying that all our real estate problems have been solved because I just got a good price on my house.

I do have faith in Tampa, however, and I believe this to be a good place to live, to find work, to enjoy life. I wanted to maintain my Florida homestead and port my significant save our home value with me, but within that I could have selected just about anywhere in this state to live. So it is not that I am bashing this area at all by acknowleging the real problems of unemployment it is currently facing. I've gotten jobs in the past that 100s of people went after which makes me pretty sure I could get a job tomorrow if I wanted one. So your assessment that my take on the unemployment level here in Tampa might in anyway reflect my own situation could not be more wrong.
It's not all about you "bud". There are numerous job opportunities for all. Googling stats, again does not paint the truth for all.
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Old 05-06-2010, 06:58 AM
 
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OK, here's the deal........(as I see it of course)

First off, why would you assume that a contractor's time is not worth $100/hr? or other services for that matter? would you go to work for minimum wage? and also afford a home? let's see, how much is he/she spending on gas getting to and from places? that alone is worth $100/hr......

so what do you think the appropriate wage is then? the reality is that the previous poster might only have enough to pay $10 per hour. any more than that and he would forego the work. the tradesman needs to weigh up whether he accepts the $10 or goes without work

Then, how do you expect that people will afford to buy homes when they get paid nothing........? how do you expect anyone to afford anything without being paid a certain amount of money? you can't pay someone $7 an hour these days and expect them to buy a $200,000 home....what can you really afford to buy with that wage exactly?

in your world perhaps the wages are too low. in my world the home prices are too high. btw do you think the world owes you a home? there are probably billions of people who have little or no shelter in this world yet you believe people are entitled to $200k homes?

Prices have INCREASED since this recession started but salaries have not, as I stated in an older post the same administrative job that was advertised at $9 an hour back in 2001 is STILL advertised at $9 an hour NOW in 2010!!! when prices have doubled since 2001, gas in Fort Lauderdale back then, in 2001, was like $1.22 to $1.28 max......... THAT makes no sense and will sure keep people from being able to afford to buy homes......

so what solution do you propose then? move the minimum wages up?

We are so hung up on the fact that "the market hasn't bottomed out yet", or that "the unemployment is so high" etc but we choose not to pay people money they deserve for the WORK THEY DO, not to hire people and at the same time expect that home prices will go back up so the loser's of 2006/2007 can build some equity? It is a catch 22 for sure.....of course you think $100/hr is a lot, when you're paid $7 an hour! DUH! if you were paid a wage you deserved for your work, that should not have come as a surprise........compare jobs, do you think a football players salary is justified? I don't think so.......spending millions on someone playing ball is a WASTE, I am very sorry but it really is...also check this out if you want to talk about wasting money:

money they deserve? listen i have $200 to pay someone to install a new kitchen. that's what i have. i'd love to pay more but i don't have the money. i'm not forcing anyone to do the work. it's purely optional. if nobody quotes me at that price i'll simply live with the old kitchen. as for footballers, where do you think they get thew money. did they force you to buy the tickets or pay for the sports channels? did they force you to buy the overpriced endorsed products?


""Americans waste more than $15 billion a year on unused gym memberships. Recent studies estimate that of the roughly 40 million Americans who pay for the gym each year, nearly 80% don't go. And with an average cost of $480 per year, that's an awful lot of dough for absolutely nothing." you could have hired 4 contractors with that money!

as for gym memberships, what do you propose? ok so you could've hired 4 contractors with that money. you seem to have forgotten about the gym receptionist, sales person, personal trainer, janitor, gym manager. then there is the local radio station and papers who rely on advertising revenue from the gym. oh and then there are those $%^&*% contractors who built the gym, manufactured the equipment and maintain it all! all of this before you've even considered the health benefits acquired by those who do actually go to the gym.

$480 A YEAR! I am sorry but that is a major waste!
Could you imagine if all that money was spend on teachers and school programs instead?

you also seem to believe that there is a shortage of teachers? are you serious? do you think the education system sux because there is a shortage or teachers and they aren't paid enough? how much then do you think teachers should earn? $50k, $75k, $100k? do you even realise that this money will come out of you pocket through taxes? Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis: Central Falls Rhode Island Fires Every High School Teacher

in your world contractors must be paid higher wages and therefore no one will have any work done because they can't afford it and them contractors will have no work. in your world gym employers are irrelevant because you think the money would be better spent hiring contractors. don't worry your little head because your world is rapidly becoming a reality and with it is coming the miserable unintended consequences
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:16 AM
 
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Florida's economy is based on smoke and mirrors. The bulk of the economic engine is not based on anything concrete and durable-it's based on abstract "things" and services-tourism and perpetual, unregulated population expansion. The moment there's any drop off of tourists or housing slows, the whole house of cards collapses. Sure, housing is produced at a sickening rate, but hopefully that's not going to go on forever. Florida has never produced much of a tangible nature and has relied on a service economy-doing stuff for people they don't want to do. It's hard to export services, more of a local thing. For the most part, tourism and service jobs pay squat, but if enough people are employed, Florida will stumble along. When these start to decline, there's nothing to fall back on.
This may be more of a national problem-the manufacturing base is disappearing along with the decent, middle class wages. I can just picture a cabal of capitalists gleefully anticipating a permanent working underclass to exploit, free from Unions and with millions of unemployed willing to do anything and accept any wage just to have a job.

greedy capitalists, yawn! it's those people you vote for who make rules so that it is impossible to compete with these greedy capitalists. if you think the banks are making too much money then start a bank! likewise if you think the drug companies, insurers, supermarkets, automakers, doctors, airlines, lawyers, farmers, newspapers, cable co's, phone companies make too much money then why don't you buy their stock or go into competiton with them. it's not that difficult, all you have to do is offer a better service at a lower price and abakazaam, you too can be rich.

i think that you might find that before you open your doors, 99% of your funding will go into complying with the silly rules the govt has put in place. so you need more capital. you could look to the public to raise funds and sell stock. by the time you've sourced the capital you'll see that 90% of it has gone just navigating the financial regulations and so it goes.

the question we need to ask ourselves when things are too expensive, the service is poor, the wages are low etc. where is the competition?
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:28 AM
 
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IF I was an employer my employees would LOVE ME FOREVER because I would make sure they all have the health insurance they need not the one that suits my needs.....as we're not all the same nor have the same health problems/needs ..........................and are paid based on the degree of difficulty of their work & performance because you can have someone highly degree'd who is unproductive and have someone self taught that is GREAT at what he/she does.....these people "working for me" "making ME PROFITS deserve to be treated like human beings not garbage and then expected to give their 100%! THAT IS NOT socialism, communism or whatever else......THAT IS JUST COMMON SENSE DUDE!!!!!!!!!!

fantastic. now go and sell your house, run up huge credit card, overdraft, mortgage and consumer debt and start a business. oh, convince your kind, retired parents to put their homes up as security for this debt. now work 16 hour days just to keep your head above water. while you're battling to keep your clients happy, service your debt (so your parents don't lose their house) and trying to grow the business to a size where you might be able to start drawing a wage, hire a few workers and pay them what they want to earn. then slap them with huge health insurance gifts and shorter working hours. i'm sure your clients won't mind paying you a little more than your competitor down the road, so you can afford all this. while you're at it, lobby your local politician to jack up your taxes so that you can pay teachers better too.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:43 AM
 
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No chi-tino...not directly...but by keep asking people to lower their fees over and over and over...it is a matter of time before that $100 becomes $0!!!

I was asked to work for free already...their excuse was that they can do it themselves too...I said "good luck"...your end result will suck and then you'll call me back because you need my expertise and my years spent learning my skill!!!!!

i don't even know why i'm bothering. people will get paid what they are worth. at the peak of the economy when everyone was building, plumbers knew they were in short supply and charged accordingly. now that there is no action it is the employer who is in short supply, they pay accordingly. if you want to pay more that's fine, pay more. i will pay what someone is worth to me
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Update...I have been seen more and more store which have fliers for applications...so there are jobs available
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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Default The governor, the state, and the people...

It's amusing that Scott has only been in the office for a short period of time and is already paving the way to further screw Florida over.

The following should be obvious to all, but only a few are speaking out...

Cutting state jobs by 8,000+ will increase the unemployment number by 8,000+.
Cutting education spending will increase unemployment in that sector by about 5,000+ (some estimate as high as 20,000).
To further enhance the screwing of Florida, he wants to decrease unemployment spending.

All of these cuts will decrease or eliminate household incomes, lowering the number of dollars people pay to the state in sales taxes.
Ultimately leading to an increase in the number of home foreclosures, meaning less being paid in property taxes as well.

Anybody who thinks we're not being screwed is a blind fool. I acknowledge the fact that something needs to be done, but to come up with these ideas that ultimately lead to even less being paid in to the state are NOT the answer. The true answer would be for all of the state's leaders to take pay/benefit cuts - governor included (hahaha... laughable, I know).
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