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Old 07-21-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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Hi everyone,

I'm currently studying speech pathology as an undergrad, but I think I may want to pursue teaching, or at least, try it out for a few years through a program such as Teach for America or TNTP City Fellows. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with the details of these initiatives. Specifically, I'd like to teach in Philadelphia, and was wondering how competitive TFA is in Philly. I know NYC, Boston, and Chicago are traditionally the cities with the lowest acceptance rate, but what are my prospects for Philly? Alternatively, I'd be willing to try Delaware or perhaps New Jersey. If the acceptance rate is ridiculously low, I may consider pursuing an M.Ed. or switching my major to education (a little late in the game as a college junior, I know). To provide some additional information, I'd be interested in applying for ESL, special education, or English.

If anyone knows anything about other alternate certification methods in PA (or other mid-Atlantic states), details about this area would be welcomed as well. I've been researching PA's "teacher intern" program, and am a bit confused on how it works. Some charter school websites I've visited say "we'll hire you if you have a BA/BS and get a provisional intern certificate," but I'm not sure how common this practice is. Would I have a chance with an intern certificate against applicants who are fully certified teachers? Any other alternate certification methods I should be aware of?
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Huh, I'm in Special Ed and English teaching, and I'm leaning toward doing speech language pathology instead, myself. Wanna switch?
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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I am not a fan of Teach for America. Too little training and most candidates have no intention of staying in the profession.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:41 AM
 
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TFA generally DOES NOT accept licensed teachers or others in an eduacation field. I also believe they only place people in TEACHING positions, not ancillary/
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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Since you sound like you're interested in being a teacher long-term, personally I'd suggest that you go the M.Ed route with certification. TFA's weak preparation seems more apt for selfish short-timers who are mostly interested in using the experience as a stepping stone.

I don't know much about the TNTP, but knowing who founded it and after looking at its website, I'm not sure I would suggest that, either. The statement from the website that would concern me the most is that program leaders decide who to endorse for licensure based primarily on student achievement. As a first year teacher working in an urban environment, you'd be putting your future career prospects in the hands of something that would mostly be beyond your control.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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TNTP=Michelle Rhee

Enough said.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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Tabula Rasa--out of curiosity, what is compelling you to switch? I feel quite torn and am not sure which path is right for me at this time.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:49 PM
 
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I know somebody that started with Philadelphia teaching fellows a couple of years ago. She went in with the promise of summer training and job placement, as well as being able to go for a masters in education while working. More than midway through the summer institute, they were told that they wouldn't be placed and would instead have to find their own jobs. She got a job at a charter which was a distaster, and has since moved on to another charter, which was a little better. Not an easy road, but it got her teaching after not taking an education course in college. Of the people she went in with, a fair number have dropped from the program, but she's not sure how many.
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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Tabula Rasa--out of curiosity, what is compelling you to switch? I feel quite torn and am not sure which path is right for me at this time.
I've been teaching for a while. Continuing onward in my education in my particular branch of ed is mostly synonymous to moving more into administrative roles, less so the front lines/hands on, which is not my preference. Getting my masters in and becoming an SLP would allow for more continued direct work with students. I have spent much of my career working closely with SLPs, OTs and PTs, and they agree with my viewpoint that continuing in the direct therapy vein would suit me better than inevitably becoming a special ed process coordinator, spending more time writing IEPs, monitoring for compliance, and doing caseload management than working with kids. All those therapy roles appeal to me, but SLP dovetails best with my background (reading/English/communication arts with a dual endorsement in mild-mod cross categorical disabilities).
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