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Old 02-12-2016, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Realize that no news station would ever cover such a story
I've been a teacher. I've been a journalist covering education, too.

In the latter capacity, I actually DID cover teachers striking over lack of district support on several occasions. The public MOST CERTAINLY DOES NOT stand behind them and support them. The response is outright vitriol. Mainly because teachers striking was inconvenient in terms of childcare issues it created. Even the most bleeding heart in the community withdrew their support after the strike went for more than about a week, in each case. Looking to the public for support is an outright joke, in my experience.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:18 AM
 
Location: NJ
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...I predict that there will be a real shortage in about 10 years as people figure out what is happening and stop going into teaching. Then they'll hire anyone off the street who is breathing to stand in front of a classroom. In the long run they are hurting themselves by treating their younger teachers as disposable. If you want to go into teaching, wait about 10 years. For now avoid it like the plague.
I share your sentiments and frustration. But I think this is the general plan. The future will simply require babysitters to monitor kids while they learn on computers. Hiring babysitters is much cheaper. Teachers today are seen as villains sucking money from taxpayers. Really sad. Because in my opinion education is more than learning a subject. Teachers are there to inspire and help students realize their potential. Computers can never do that.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I share your sentiments and frustration. But I think this is the general plan. The future will simply require babysitters to monitor kids while they learn on computers. Hiring babysitters is much cheaper. Teachers today are seen as villains sucking money from taxpayers. Really sad. Because in my opinion education is more than learning a subject. Teachers are there to inspire and help students realize their potential. Computers can never do that.

THAT will be a disaster. Learning on a computer requires intrinsic motivation. I have a friend who teaches at a school that tried this. They put 60 students in a room on computers with a teacher and a para to watch over them. MOST of the kids paced so slowly that they'd never come even close to finishing half of the class. She and the para spent their time chasing kids off of other websites. Most of the kids failed to finish enough material to get credit for the class. It was a short lived experiment.


Unfortunately, I agree with you on the public's opinion of teachers. The thing I miss the most from engineering is being respected for what I do.
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Old 02-25-2016, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Assault on a staff member went form a Level IV automatic expulsion to a Level II up to 5 days suspension for a first offense.


Distribution of alcohol or drugs went from a Level IV automatic expulsion (although there was a work around built in to that) to a Level III 10 day suspension for a first offense.


Chronic insubordination/chronic class disruption went from a Level II 3 -5 day suspension to 1 day ISS for a first offense.


On 3 separate "assault" on teachers last year. All three were thrown out because the teacher was found at fault for "provoking" behaviors


Alcohol and drugs usually results in a 3 day suspension.


Insubordination/chronic class disruption. THERE IS NO SUCH THING at my school. You can remove them and the admin will walk them back up in 10 minutes after a CONFERENCE.


Misery
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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On 3 separate "assault" on teachers last year. All three were thrown out because the teacher was found at fault for "provoking" behaviors


Alcohol and drugs usually results in a 3 day suspension.


Insubordination/chronic class disruption. THERE IS NO SUCH THING at my school. You can remove them and the admin will walk them back up in 10 minutes after a CONFERENCE.


Misery
...with a cookie and a reprimand for the teacher for sending them in the first place...


If I had my first year in my current school to do over again I would NEVER have sent a student to the office. The students knew that I'd be the one in trouble and that just served to empower them to up the ante and act even worse next time. Pop quizzes work so much better. THAT gets their peers mad at them.
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sometimes the law does prevail though.


3 Deltona Middle School students accused of poisoning teacher | Local News - WESH Home
On Monday, the teacher, a 52-year-old woman, referred one of her students to the principal's office for dumping glue into another student's backpack and for suspicion of stealing a laptop computer. Angry at her teacher and wanting to get back at her, officials said the girl came up with the idea of pouring something into the teacher's drink.
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Old 02-29-2016, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Leaving fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada
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Sometimes the law does prevail though.


3 Deltona Middle School students accused of poisoning teacher | Local News - WESH Home
On Monday, the teacher, a 52-year-old woman, referred one of her students to the principal's office for dumping glue into another student's backpack and for suspicion of stealing a laptop computer. Angry at her teacher and wanting to get back at her, officials said the girl came up with the idea of pouring something into the teacher's drink.
I'm a little surprised the teacher didn't get reprimanded for having a drink in front of the students.
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Old 03-02-2016, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I'm a little surprised the teacher didn't get reprimanded for having a drink in front of the students.
I drink water, soda, and coffee all the time in front of my older students. I do not let the freshmen have any food or drink.

I occasionally munch on snacks as well.
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Old 03-06-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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When schools started getting hammered for mediocre or sub par graduation rates.

That's when schools backed off. Schools more or less said "ok if it's gonna be a game of numbers, then we'll play the game". My school does not directly or formally punish teachers for failing kids BUT there is a reason why last year all the tough graders in the English dept were not allowed to teacher senior english. Admin went out of their way to make sure every senior was greased through.
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Old 03-06-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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When schools started getting hammered for mediocre or sub par graduation rates.

That's when schools backed off. Schools more or less said "ok if it's gonna be a game of numbers, then we'll play the game". My school does not directly or formally punish teachers for failing kids BUT there is a reason why last year all the tough graders in the English dept were not allowed to teacher senior english. Admin went out of their way to make sure every senior was greased through.
Our seniors have figured this out and are currently cutting classes with impunity. They know that the district is putting pressure on teachers to pass students who don't even show up.
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