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Old 09-23-2016, 09:49 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Yeah, that's the problem. Only people who have had 3 years of full-time public school experience are exempt. That is not going to help all the people who can't get their foot in the door here in a public or nonpublic school teaching situation and are in sub/assistant/nursery school perpetuity. The required exams seem to be Virginia specific so it's not easy for someone in another state to take them.
All the Virginia specific exams are computerized and can be taken where the Praxis, GRE, and other testing is done in all states. The child abuse test is online and can be taken from your home.
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:13 AM
 
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All the Virginia specific exams are computerized and can be taken where the Praxis, GRE, and other testing is done in all states. The child abuse test is online and can be taken from your home.
The Pearson Testing Centers state that you have to make "special arrangements" to take the VA tests at a NY test center and they may not be available. What is so frustrating is that different states require different Praxis exams for the same subject cert.
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Old 10-22-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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My administration is making personal phone calls if a name pops up or someone thinks they might know somebody willing to take a teaching job.
Still looking. So, if anybody knows anybody...
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Old 11-25-2016, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Our long term sub can't work past December 16. It will be interesting to see what transpires.
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Old 11-28-2016, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Some States, particularly Texas, New Mexico and Arizona are known as starter states for new teachers who need experience in order to get a job in a State that pays or treats teachers better. Those states seem to always have lots of unfilled openings in many districts. New teachers go there for two or three years and then use their experience to get into another State. Not sure why Texas falls into that group, but I know why Arizona does (terrible pay, teachers are treated terribly by the administration and the State, teaching conditions are deplorable).

My daughter is a music teacher, and many of the jobs she looked at initially were schools that had not had a certified music teacher for many years, or ever. Most of the districts in those three states had lots and lots of openings and, in the district she chose (in Arizona) many of the openings went unfilled.

Ont eh other hand in Michigan (one of the top 5 States for treating teachers well according to my daughter), other than Detroit or Flint or a few other places where conditions are terrible, most job postings in public schools draw hundreds of resumes from experienced teachers form other States. Unless you are willing to risk your life or well being, it is next to impossible for beginning teachers to find a full time position in a public school here.

She attended (reportedly) the biggest teaching school in the USA (Eastern Michigan University) and to my knowledge, not one of her classmates that she knows landed a full time public school position in Michigan. A great many of them went to other States, specifically Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and either North or South Carolina. As far as I know, none of them are still in their original State. They all got some experience and moved on to a better State for teachers.

At her school in Arizona, they had a person whose sole job was to try to get new teachers to stay past the 2-3 year mark. They lose most of their new teachers in 2-3 years and apparently they found if they get them to stay beyond 3 years, they have very good odds of keeping them long term. She started out committed stubbornly to staying for a minimum of five years because that is how long it takes to fully establish a music program. However, after 2 years, she could not take it anymore and moved to Colorado (big pay raise, but higher cost of living, deplorable conditions in one school, reasonably good in the other).

Quite a lot of people also move out of teaching altogether. After a few years of teaching with tiny pay increases, they decide they want a job with the opportunity to work their way up to a point where they can afford a couch someday.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Some States, particularly Texas, New Mexico and Arizona are known as starter states for new teachers who need experience in order to get a job in a State that pays or treats teachers better. Those states seem to always have lots of unfilled openings in many districts. New teachers go there for two or three years and then use their experience to get into another State. Not sure why Texas falls into that group, but I know why Arizona does (terrible pay, teachers are treated terribly by the administration and the State, teaching conditions are deplorable).

My daughter is a music teacher, and many of the jobs she looked at initially were schools that had not had a certified music teacher for many years, or ever. Most of the districts in those three states had lots and lots of openings and, in the district she chose (in Arizona) many of the openings went unfilled.

Ont eh other hand in Michigan (one of the top 5 States for treating teachers well according to my daughter), other than Detroit or Flint or a few other places where conditions are terrible, most job postings in public schools draw hundreds of resumes from experienced teachers form other States. Unless you are willing to risk your life or well being, it is next to impossible for beginning teachers to find a full time position in a public school here.

She attended (reportedly) the biggest teaching school in the USA (Eastern Michigan University) and to my knowledge, not one of her classmates that she knows landed a full time public school position in Michigan. A great many of them went to other States, specifically Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and either North or South Carolina. As far as I know, none of them are still in their original State. They all got some experience and moved on to a better State for teachers.

At her school in Arizona, they had a person whose sole job was to try to get new teachers to stay past the 2-3 year mark. They lose most of their new teachers in 2-3 years and apparently they found if they get them to stay beyond 3 years, they have very good odds of keeping them long term. She started out committed stubbornly to staying for a minimum of five years because that is how long it takes to fully establish a music program. However, after 2 years, she could not take it anymore and moved to Colorado (big pay raise, but higher cost of living, deplorable conditions in one school, reasonably good in the other).

Quite a lot of people also move out of teaching altogether. After a few years of teaching with tiny pay increases, they decide they want a job with the opportunity to work their way up to a point where they can afford a couch someday.
We need teachers (and it's not Arizona, Texas, or NM). I'm not sure the reasons for the lack of candidates. Perhaps it is the cost of living.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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We need teachers (and it's not Arizona, Texas, or NM). I'm not sure the reasons for the lack of candidates. Perhaps it is the cost of living.
Cost of living is a huge factor for No. Virginia. New teachers need to have a roommate or live far out from their school then endure the horrible traffic. The pay is decent for starting out and I think the mentoring and training for new teachers is well done, or at least was when I was working. It's just if they can afford to live there.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I live in the Dallas area now and most starting salaries are around $50k out here. Compare that to the $30K range in Missouri. The cost of living here is higher, but not by $20K/year.

Georgia must be hurting for teachers. I was contacted by three different schools in the Atlanta area in July, August, and September. I think I put in a statewide application in the spring.
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Cost of living is a huge factor for No. Virginia. New teachers need to have a roommate or live far out from their school then endure the horrible traffic. The pay is decent for starting out and I think the mentoring and training for new teachers is well done, or at least was when I was working. It's just if they can afford to live there.
The pay is really not that great for the area. Your last sentence is pretty much what applicants, especially young ones, from taking jobs here. It's getting worse.
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Old 12-04-2016, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Suburbia
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Looking for English Teacher
You should state where you are.

On Friday my school interviewed a candidate for our open elementary position. I know she was offered the position, but I also know she had a other interviews earlier last week. I'm hoping she accepts!
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