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Like most states New York bundles Health and PE into one certification and the teacher is expected to be competent in both areas and capable of teaching both.
You should have had classroom training and I am honestly surprised you have managed to get away with not pulling your weight in the health half of the requirements for students in your school. You are not going to be teaching out of your subject area, you are going to be teaching in an additional strand of your certification area.
Welcome to the classroom, where like every other teacher, you will need to figure out how to keep students on task even when they think the content is boring and they think the class is a big waste of their time. That is what is going to be far more challenging for you than knowing the actual content. Lesson planning is going to be very different also, among other things you are going to need to learn how to gage how much time a particular lesson/activity is going to take because it will no longer be "we'll do this until I whistle," there are now going to be distinct completion points and you need to make sure you avoid down time, or they will fill it, which will not be a good thing. Also, you are going to have to carve out time to grade student work/assessments when there are no students around practically on a daily basis, this is a big contributor to teachers having to work past contract hours. You do need to brush up your content competency, if there really is a problem there. High school students will nail you if you appear to not know your stuff.
I'm not trying to pick on you, but...
The above may have been a motivator in why you have had that new content strand given to you. I can't believe they allowed your PE only instruction to begin with, but were I your principal and I saw you rushing out with the buses every day, you better believe I would have added the Health. Actually, your prinicpal was nicer than I would have been, you would get a 50/50 split were it me.
On the other hand, you might want to consider whether or not your principal is trying to set you up for failure, with the end goal of getting you out of their school. Giving teachers classes the principal knows they hate or increasing the number of preps is a common tactic to encourage teachers to move to another school. Of course, it may just be they had an extra Health classes and you drew the short straw. Only you can appraise what senario is most likely, but you need to consider whether it is something you should be concerned about from a career standpoint.
I never wrote that I leave on the dot. I don't think I ever did anything to have them keep an eye out on me. In fact, I coached a team and I was a facilitation leader and stayed after school sometimes. I also ran a badminton club 2 days a week from 7 AM to 8AM. I received 51 points out of 60 on my evaluation which is rated effective. I was short 4 points of being highly effective. I don't think I did anything to have my principal want me to fail. I believe they just had extra health classes and I drew the short straw. I attended awards night which was voluntary. I helped with new student orientation. At this point, I accept that I am teaching health and it won't be so bad.
I never wrote that I leave on the dot. I don't think I ever did anything to have them keep an eye out on me. In fact, I coached a team and I was a facilitation leader and stayed after school sometimes. I also ran a badminton club 2 days a week from 7 AM to 8AM. I received 51 points out of 60 on my evaluation which is rated effective. I was short 4 points of being highly effective. I don't think I did anything to have my principal want me to fail. I believe they just had extra health classes and I drew the short straw. I attended awards night which was voluntary. I helped with new student orientation. At this point, I accept that I am teaching health and it won't be so bad.
Now wait a minute. One of your posts somewhere says, "I always leave right on the dot. I don't stay any longer than I have to because I like to go enjoy my hobbies after work."
Interesting that you say this is out of your subject area. My kids were in high school in the 1980s and health was always taught in the PE department. I don't think there were separate specialists for health.
Now at my grandchildren's school, I think health is part of biology. That is partly because they don't all take PE - if they take band or a sport that is their PE requirement.
Health is taught as part of PE in my school as well. That seems logical to me since PE is about physical fitness.
Interesting that you say this is out of your subject area. My kids were in high school in the 1980s and health was always taught in the PE department. I don't think there were separate specialists for health.
Now at my grandchildren's school, I think health is part of biology. That is partly because they don't all take PE - if they take band or a sport that is their PE requirement.
While I don't doubt what you say, I'm a little surprised that band would meet a state requirement for Physical Education.
I never wrote that I leave on the dot. I don't think I ever did anything to have them keep an eye out on me. In fact, I coached a team and I was a facilitation leader and stayed after school sometimes. I also ran a badminton club 2 days a week from 7 AM to 8AM. I received 51 points out of 60 on my evaluation which is rated effective. I was short 4 points of being highly effective. I don't think I did anything to have my principal want me to fail. I believe they just had extra health classes and I drew the short straw. I attended awards night which was voluntary. I helped with new student orientation. At this point, I accept that I am teaching health and it won't be so bad.
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Nothing wrong with your work ethic OP. Work life balance is key. Work hard but also play hard. No need to devote your life to your job. I always leave right on the dot. I don't stay any longer than I have to because I like to go enjoy my hobbies after work.
While I don't doubt what you say, I'm a little surprised that band would meet a state requirement for Physical Education.
Maybe it's marching band? When I did marching band we didn't have PE either because we were always marching on the field, Imguess that counted for exercise.
While I don't doubt what you say, I'm a little surprised that band would meet a state requirement for Physical Education.
Some states do that.
As far as the original question goes, Health and PE are usually intertwined in the education classes and the certificate reads as such. Being a PE teacher teaching Health is about as much out of field as a US History teacher picking up a World History class.
Teaching out of field is usually considered to be teaching a course far removed from your major. Kind of like when I, a Social Studies teacher, one year taught 9th and11th grade English or another year when I taught Earth Science.
We had a Health/PE teacher who taught Art for a couple or three years. The administration really screwed her over on that. Although she didn't do Art as her whole schedule she had enough classes doing it that that 3rd year caused her certificate in Health/PE to be suspended due to "teaching out of field".
While I don't doubt what you say, I'm a little surprised that band would meet a state requirement for Physical Education.
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Maybe it's marching band? When I did marching band we didn't have PE either because we were always marching on the field, Imguess that counted for exercise.
Perhaps, that is the case. In my local high schools while band and orchestra are classes held during the school day, marching band and all marching practice is done after school and during the summer as an extra curricular activity not as an actual class for HS credit. But, of course, different states may do it completely differently.
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Hi. I went to professional development from Monday through today. I was informed that I was teaching a health class on Monday. We start September 8th. I teach physical education and was caught off guard when I was informed I was teaching health. I know that health does have some relation to PE but I have no classroom training nor do I feel confident in my abilities to be an effective educator of health. I am anxious about delivering content to a classroom of high school students. I feel that, although I know the content, I will mess up and forget some of the content that I need to teach to the students during class. From the time I was hired, there was never an indication that I would ever teach health at my current school. I never wanted to teach health. They put more work on my hands.
How did you get a teaching credential without classroom training?
Health has been a part or the PE curriculum in all three states (CA, NV, HI) that I've been involved with in education. Even in teaching PE, there were always classroom elements to it.
If all you've done is throw out balls and blow a whistle you are a recreation supervisor, not a PE teacher.
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In our elementary grades k-6 the classroom teacher teaches health. PE teachers do not.
In 24 years I've never known a PE teacher to be in the building beyond contract hours. That's not necessarily a bad thing and only represents my experience.
In my experience at the middle school and high school levels every PE was a coach and everyone was at school an hour before school and seldom left before 7PM in season. On game days you were lucky to leave before 10PM.
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While I don't doubt what you say, I'm a little surprised that band would meet a state requirement for Physical Education.
I, like others, will assume they meant marching band. Those in marching band were exempt from PE as were athletes and the spirit squad (cheerleaders, drill team, flag twirlers and song leaders).
While I don't doubt what you say, I'm a little surprised that band would meet a state requirement for Physical Education.
Marching band is actually more physical than any PE class she has ever had.
We are in Texas and they have been in band camp since July 28th - they run laps and do a bunch of physical activity in preparation for marching and they do it in the 95 to 100 degree heat before school begins. Now that school has started they are marching 4 days per week (3 practices and 1 shorter practice before the football game). It is harder than many sports here.
She is getting more exercise than she ever got before with this program. Now, in November the marching season is over and it may slow down - they have music contests, but that is not quite as strenuous. She gets physical activity from 3 pm to 6 pm for 3 days a week which is more than I got in high school.
High School Graduation Requirements:
The state requires students to earn 1.0 physical education credit for graduation.
Substitutions:
The state permits school districts or schools to allow students to substitute inter-scholastic sports, community sports, JROTC, marching band, cheerleading, drill team, any athletic team participation for their required physical education credit
Note Texas only requires 1 year of PE basically. When my kids went to HS, it was 4 years, but that was in Illinois.
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