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Old 05-30-2008, 03:49 PM
 
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Hi,

I am a teacher who trained in the UK, although I am a US citizen. I am looking to move back to the US (I have family in NYC and Michigan) and Im thinking about California. I have a friend who lives in Vista, CA and when I visited recently I loved it. I also fell for San Francisco, and liked San Diego too. Newport Beach/Laguna Beach/Dana Point was gorgeous, but a bit too much plastic surgery and pricy housing!

I want to leave the UK as the cost of housing and living is just insane, and my family and friends seem to have a much better standard of living in the US. The weather would be a great bonus, and the reason I am looking at Cali and possibly Arizona. Being near water is a important, I like being 1/2 hour away from the sea at the moment!

I am becoming aware that teaching opportunities are few and far between in California, from threads I have read and from conversations. I am worried about being single with no permanant income, and although I would consider other work, it has to be meaningful. I cant see myself working for a big faceless company or a superficial boutique which sells overpriced 'stuff'. I dont mean to sound harsh, but my job is important to me, and helping other people achieve drives me, its not just for the money.

I am a really relaxed person, I like the idea of a sunshine-filled laid back lifestyle, in a nice suburban area, with good schools, friendly people and a neighbourhood feel with strong community ties. Like I had when I was small! As I am single, easy access to a big town/city with a good social scene is a must too!

Any ideas out there? I have a feeling this might be a big list to fulfill, but I have to try!

Thank you
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Old 05-30-2008, 08:26 PM
 
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who told you that CA lacks teaching opportunities?
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:28 AM
 
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While you were visiting California did you check out the housing prices there? California has insane house prices, especially San Fran and San Diego--like $1,000,000 for a 1200 sq foot home insane.

If you want to be near the ocean, try the east coast around the Carolina's. Housing there is much less expensive.
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:06 PM
 
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who told you that CA lacks teaching opportunities?
Hi Katenik, My friend has found it difficult to find a permenant job, and threads have suggested that there have been big budget cuts, is this information out of date?
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:16 PM
 
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While you were visiting California did you check out the housing prices there? California has insane house prices, especially San Fran and San Diego--like $1,000,000 for a 1200 sq foot home insane.

If you want to be near the ocean, try the east coast around the Carolina's. Housing there is much less expensive.
Thank you, I will look into the Carolina's, any suggestion on good area near the sea/city?
My friend's house cost $500,000 in Vista, and it is the sort of place I was thinking of. Im sure though closer to the sea it goes up in price much more. Comparing it to what it gets you in the UK, her house does seem a good deal, but I dont know if I want to move from one expensive place to another if the money goes further somewhere equally as nice. Im up for suggestions!
Thanks.
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:32 PM
 
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Hi Katenik, My friend has found it difficult to find a permenant job, and threads have suggested that there have been big budget cuts, is this information out of date?
yes, there have been budget cuts, but, as you no doubt know, if there are students, there must be teachers in the classroom to teach them (or, at least, babysit). the state teachers' union made a big fuss about the pink slips that were issued to non-tenured teachers in march, although anyone in education here knows perfectly well that those notices are supposed to be issued in march EVERY YEAR to all teachers without permanent contracts. many of those teachers who were "laid off" two months ago have already been granted reasonable assurance that they will have their positions back in the fall. of course, that development received considerably less press coverage, because we have to keep californians thinking that "THE CHILDREN" are suffering so we'll borrow and tax ourselves into oblivion for "THE CHILDREN" come november.

the other thing to realize about this situation is that what they are calling "cuts" are decreases of projected/planned increases for the next fiscal year; they are not decreases from current spending levels. CA does and will continue to spend a great deal on public education. while some non-essential programs and services will suffer the ax, mass lay-offs of core-curriculum teachers simply isn't a feasible response to this exaggerated "crisis," and everyone from the governor on down knows it.

i don't know your friend's situation, so i cannot speak to why that individual is unable to find a teaching job. however, i do know that if one is fully-credentialed in a core subject, particularly math or science, or is a SPED specialist, there are teaching jobs aplenty in CA as long as one isn't picky about the neighborhood.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:44 PM
 
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Default Listen to a teacher....

No, now is not a good time to be looking for teaching jobs in California, unless you are a Math or Science teacher who is fully credentialed. Math and Science teachers will always be in demand.

Gov. Arnold threatened to cut 500 MILLION dollars from the budget of Los Angeles Unified in July (that has since dropped somewhat) - this sum would be equivalent to the operating budgets of 20 high schools.

No teacher "automatically" receives what we call a March 15th notice. Probationary teachers in districts other than LA Unified received these notices advising them to look elsewhere for employment. This is NOT standard procedure. LA Unified did not want to upset too many people, but the district could still declare an official "State of Emergency" in which ALL contract guarantees are tossed out the window.

We have the worst fiscal crisis in at least twenty years. Even without this crisis, the state of California ranks 49th in per pupil spending on education. I think Mississippi ranks lower than we do.

The previous poster was correct when he or she stated that there will be teachers in the classroom (or at least babysitters), but oh, I shudder to think of the conditions of these over-crowded classrooms. Many administrators will be bumping the new teachers into the unemployment lines when they are thrown back into classrooms.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:15 PM
 
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It's far from the ocean unfortunately, but Vegas is ALWAYS looking for teachers. May be a way to get in the US door?

As for cost of living, yes the UK is astronomical, but rest assured that things are tough in a lot of the US too. We have had our own bubble.
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:34 PM
 
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No, now is not a good time to be looking for teaching jobs in California, unless you are a Math or Science teacher who is fully credentialed. Math and Science teachers will always be in demand.

Gov. Arnold threatened to cut 500 MILLION dollars from the budget of Los Angeles Unified in July (that has since dropped somewhat) - this sum would be equivalent to the operating budgets of 20 high schools.

No teacher "automatically" receives what we call a March 15th notice. Probationary teachers in districts other than LA Unified received these notices advising them to look elsewhere for employment. This is NOT standard procedure. LA Unified did not want to upset too many people, but the district could still declare an official "State of Emergency" in which ALL contract guarantees are tossed out the window.

We have the worst fiscal crisis in at least twenty years. Even without this crisis, the state of California ranks 49th in per pupil spending on education. I think Mississippi ranks lower than we do.

The previous poster was correct when he or she stated that there will be teachers in the classroom (or at least babysitters), but oh, I shudder to think of the conditions of these over-crowded classrooms. Many administrators will be bumping the new teachers into the unemployment lines when they are thrown back into classrooms.
so says edweek, using a formula of their own to arrive at that conclusion. others disagree, including the CA legislative analyst's office. rand doesn't accept edweek's ranking, either.

"In February, California's Legislative Analyst's Office cited unadjusted federal data for fiscal 2003-04 (then the most recent available), ranking California “right in the middle of the pack” at 25th among states, with $7,673 per pupil."


SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Education -- Per-pupil spending rankings all relative

i must also disagree with you about the march 15 notices. i taught in a district that fell into the practice of issuing notices only to teachers who were actually being dismisssed, until it ran afoul of the union by making last-minute staffing cuts that affected a number of teachers who had not previously received notice. the district was forced to retain all of them for that school year, because the lack of notice triggered the renewal of their annual contracts. thereafter, the notices went out to all non-tenured faculty every march 15, like clockwork. i was gone by then, but i have friends (former colleagues in that district, as well as some who worked elsewhere) who received notices every year until they were tenured, and always had jobs to return to in the fall as long as they fulfilled their credentialing requirements. it used to freak them out, until they realized that as long as there was a shortage of teachers, it didn't mean anything. i also know of administrators who received notices every year, threatening reassignment to the classroom. sometimes it happened; sometimes, not.

i do think you are correct in predicting that some teachers will lose their jobs to reassigned administrators who have seniority. sadly, some administrators are so out of touch with the job of teaching, they won't be much use in the classroom. but, that's how it goes...
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Hollywood)
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Hmmmm, well, okay, my experience has been with LA Unified. I am also the Co-Chair for our high school's chapter of UTLA - the big "nasty" teachers' union.

We were worried that our nontenured teachers would receive notices in March, but they did not. Still, there is the threat of that "state of emergency" looming large.

Yes, you are certainly correct. The majority of administrators are hopelessly out of touch with the classroom. Many became administrators in order to leave the classroom.
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