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Old 04-07-2010, 06:19 PM
 
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I think you maybe mistaken. Here in NJ high school students MUST take US history 1 and US history 2 (both full year courses) to graduate.

New Jersey High School Graduation Requirements (N.J.A.C. 6A:8-5)

My children spent the entire 1st marking period and half of the next on the revolutionary war, the constitution, and the forming of this nation. And not for nothing, NJ is very liberal so I find it hard to believe more conservative states are doing that. Do you have a source?
Just curious. Did they learn about the second amendment? If so how much time was devoted to it vs. the 1st amendment or environmentalism and tolerance/diversity?
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:21 PM
 
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---learning to evaluate the evidence---

And that gives a lot of room for the teachers' political slant to be interjected.

Seems ,with one of my kids history teacher, she was always looking at wars etc from the perspective of-------" what did the US do wrong that caused this to happen"
And compare that to the mistakes made by other nations? Maybe in the World History course mandated in most states?

How is learning how conflicts arose anything but positive? How are we supposed to recognize conflicts before they occur?

The idea that noting and discussing ways in which this country is imperfect is somehow inappropriate is RIDICULOUS. This is the freest nation in the world and that freedom was based on questioning the government and the country itself. To deny people that right or even to suggest that it is unpatriotic is downright FASCIST. Your child's teacher is just teaching basic citizenship which includes knowing all your country's history, the negative and the positive.
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Small Town USA Population about 15,000
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I think you maybe mistaken. Here in NJ high school students MUST take US history 1 and US history 2 (both full year courses) to graduate.

My children spent the entire 1st marking period and half of the next on the revolutionary war, the constitution, and the forming of this nation. And not for nothing, NJ is very liberal so I find it hard to believe more conservative states are doing that. Do you have a source?


Our 2 high schools require 3 years of history, with that said there is a university here that starting in the fall will no longer offer history as a teaching major (history with a teaching emphasis) go figure.
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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There is a concerted effort in public schools to phase out teaching of US History earlier than the civil war, and teaching on the civil war only because of the slavery issue.
Ridiculous. Usually, the very first thing that is discussed is the Revolutionary War as this is the war that marked the beginning of our great country.

Only people I ever heard who complained about what YOU are complaining about are those who still believe/wishes/hopes for the rise of the confederacy again. That or they are tea partiers.

Seriously, why do YOU think there is "a concerted effort in public schools" to do this?
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:48 PM
 
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Just curious. Did they learn about the second amendment? If so how much time was devoted to it vs. the 1st amendment or environmentalism and tolerance/diversity?
Here are the NJ CCS for ALL high school students to know based on the Revolution and the Constitution. Notice that it does not single out the first ammendment for special treatment or downplay the second amendment. What would be wrong with that?

Version:1.0 StartHTML:0000000167 EndHTML:0000008853 StartFragment:0000002350 EndFragment:0000008817 SourceURL:file://localhost/Users/admin/Downloads/std6_ss.doc A. Civics, Government, and Human Rights
[CENTER][CENTER]6.1.12.A.2.a[/CENTER][/CENTER]
Analyze the intellectual origins of the major ideas expressed in the Declaration of Independence.
[CENTER][CENTER]6.1.12.A.2.b[/CENTER][/CENTER]
Evaluate the importance of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights to the spread of democracy around the world.
[CENTER][CENTER]6.1.12.A.2.c[/CENTER][/CENTER]
Compare and contrast state constitutions, including New Jersey’s 1776 constitution, with the United States Constitution, and determine their impact on the development of American constitutional government.
[CENTER][CENTER]6.1.12.A.2.d[/CENTER][/CENTER]
Compare and contrast the arguments of Federalists and Anti-Federalists during the ratification debates, and assess their continuing relevance.
[CENTER][CENTER]6.1.12.A.2.e[/CENTER][/CENTER]
Explain how judicial review made the Supreme Court an influential branch of government, and assess the continuing impact of the Supreme Court today.
[CENTER][CENTER]6.1.12.A.2.f[/CENTER][/CENTER]
Examine the emergence of early political parties and their views on centralized government and foreign affairs, and compare these positions with those of today’s political parties.
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Old 04-10-2010, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Just curious. Did they learn about the second amendment? If so how much time was devoted to it vs. the 1st amendment or environmentalism and tolerance/diversity?
Would you like for there to be equal time devoted to the first and second amendments? Should we also devote equal time to the third amendment? That's the one that protects us from being forced to quarter soldiers.

As it is presently interpreted, the second amendment simply guarantees one's right to own guns. In terms of talking about it in school, an equal number of Americans believe that gun control is important versus the number who believe that gun rights must be protected (46% in each camp according to this March 2010 Pew survey: Gun Control Splits America - Pew Research Center).

The first amendment protects freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, freedom of petition, and freedom of religion. Every day of your life, multiple times per day, you enjoy freedoms guaranteed under the first amendment. From 2000-2010 alone, there were about 100 Supreme Court opinions issued that related to the first amendment (firstamendmentcenter.org: Welcome to the First Amendment Center Online). In the entire history of the Supreme Court, there have not been as many opinions related to the second amendment. Why would teachers spend equal amounts of time on amendments that have had unequal influence on our judicial and cultural history?

As for the environment, 100% of Americans breathe air and drink water. A vast majority eat animal products from our waterways and lands. Yet, as of 2005, only 3 in 10 Americans owned guns (Gun Ownership and Use in America).
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