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Old 04-06-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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There is a concerted effort in public schools to phase out teaching of US History earlier than the civil war, and teaching on the civil war only because of the slavery issue. There is a reason for this, of course, and that is because teaching of US History in the Revolutionary period requires the students to actually know the reasons for the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and if they know and understand those, then they will inevitably recognize the inherent dangers that big government is.

We have all seen the conditioning of the children to cameras and basic intrusions of their fundamental rights. Teach them early and often that 'the camera is everywhere', and they will accept it as completely normal.

The 2nd Amendment, therefore, must ultimately be dismantled or rendered too expensive to exercise as a right, for it is the people's guarantee of the rest of them.

The government is testing the waters of limits on free speech and freedom of the press, using 'hate crimes' and 'hate speech' legislation. As long as We the People don't push back, it will continue.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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When the last WWII soldier dies, you know it will be us that attacked Japan at Pearl Harbor.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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My son complained that they couldn't get out of the Revolutionary War for years and years. The schools spend almost all elementary school years starting from the beginning rarely get past the Revolutionary War. They didn't start learning past the Revolutionary War until 9th Grade. That's when the Civil War is taught (with brief mention of it a few years earlier on ocassion). WWII was taught in 10th Grade. They only briefly touch on WWI--even though it's one of the most interesting wars.

He is a history buff so he's always complained about the way public school teaches history. He says he received the best history education when he attended Catholic school during middle school years (where he learned ancient history and european history which isn't taught in public schools).

That said, he says that public school doesn't teach Civil War properly. He didn't get proper instruction about the Civil War until college when he took African American History. Thankfully, he knew the public schools were teaching history wrong because he was always very well read in history.

There's also the problem of some state education systems changing history instruction. For example, the state of Texas often decides to completely exclude negative parts of US history. As a result, the publishers of history books exclude those parts of history from all textbooks because it's cheaper to produce one book for the entire country.

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Old 04-06-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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My son complained that they couldn't get out of the Revolutionary War for years and years. The schools spend almost all elementary school years starting from the beginning rarely get past the Revolutionary War. They didn't start learning past the Revolutionary War until 9th Grade. That's when the Civil War is taught (with brief mention of it a few years earlier on ocassion). WWII was taught in 10th Grade. They only briefly touch on WWI--even though it's one of the most interesting wars.

He is a history buff so he's always complained about the way public school teaches history. He says he received the best history education when he attended Catholic school during middle school years (where he learned ancient history and european history which isn't taught in public schools).

That said, he says that public school doesn't teach Civil War properly. He didn't get proper instruction about the Civil War until college when he took African American History. Thankfully, he knew the public schools were teaching history wrong because he was always very well read in history.

There's also the problem of some state education systems changing history instruction. For example, the state of Texas often decides to completely exclude negative parts of US history. As a result, the publishers of history books exclude those parts of history from all textbooks because it's cheaper to produce one book for the entire country.
That explains why US history was much more pro America in grade school then there was more of a focus on the negative parts which is just as important so we can learn from the mistakes of the past in our country. I can't resist adding this but of course it would be Texas that would have a law like that.
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Old 04-06-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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I agree with the OP that I don't like the way public schools are making everything so politically correct and wiping out the importance of the Constitution - but I can say that nothing is nearly as extreme as you are making it out to be.
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:42 AM
 
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There is a concerted effort in public schools to phase out teaching of US History earlier than the civil war, and teaching on the civil war only because of the slavery issue. There is a reason for this, of course, and that is because teaching of US History in the Revolutionary period requires the students to actually know the reasons for the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and if they know and understand those, then they will inevitably recognize the inherent dangers that big government is.

We have all seen the conditioning of the children to cameras and basic intrusions of their fundamental rights. Teach them early and often that 'the camera is everywhere', and they will accept it as completely normal.

The 2nd Amendment, therefore, must ultimately be dismantled or rendered too expensive to exercise as a right, for it is the people's guarantee of the rest of them.

The government is testing the waters of limits on free speech and freedom of the press, using 'hate crimes' and 'hate speech' legislation. As long as We the People don't push back, it will continue.
You should see if Texas has any openings on its Board of Education. I think you'd be perfect at censoring text books, and Texas is the place to do it!

Happy Teabaggin'
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:44 AM
 
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It's all part of the "blame America" mentality that is prevalent in education (and politics).
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:30 AM
 
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I don't get threads like this. Where is the proof or links? My kids have had lots and lots of US history, and like the OP, my kids are in school in PA. In HS alone there is US History and American Government here. If you don't like the way something is taught in your area schools attend the school board meetings and speak up.
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:46 AM
 
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Read the book, FedEd: The New Federal Curriculum and How it's Enforced, by Allen Quist (College Professor,former Minnesota State Representative and two time candidate for governor) if you want to really learn what is happening in the public schools. You will see how schools are being transformed "from institutions of learning to centers of social engineering." The book provides verifiable facts and numbers not just opinions. It is a short but informative, enlightening read. Check out the reviews at Amazon.
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Old 04-07-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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This is disconcerting to read. I have three relatives with advanced degrees in history. Would love to read some info on where the OP obtained this data.
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