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Relocation from Florida to Rogersville, Tennessee: nearby employment, jobs in area, gas stations, grocery stores, shopping venues, neighborhoods, cost of living, Tennessee outdoors

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Old 12-08-2007, 01:37 PM
 
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Please all you Yankees.....stay away from Rogersville. I moved here a while back to get away from all the ignorant people from the city and I feel good and at home in Rogersville. I do not want to move again because of the ignorant people. Rogersville is a great place BUT only because the people here are genuine and dont pretend to be anything but who they are. Not like those others (Floridians, New Yorker, Jersey...etc.) All fake people who think that thre crap doesnt stink. Take your million dollar home and $80,000 autombiles and move to California whre nobod cares about you just like you dont care about anyone else.
Gee, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. I just wonder if people said the same things to you when you moved to TN. How welcoming you are.... NICE..
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Old 12-08-2007, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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Please all you Yankees.....stay away from Rogersville. I moved here a while back to get away from all the ignorant people from the city and I feel good and at home in Rogersville. I do not want to move again because of the ignorant people. Rogersville is a great place BUT only because the people here are genuine and dont pretend to be anything but who they are. Not like those others (Floridians, New Yorker, Jersey...etc.) All fake people who think that thre crap doesnt stink. Take your million dollar home and $80,000 autombiles and move to California whre nobod cares about you just like you dont care about anyone else.
Not everyone from Florida is as you described. Most of us who are heading your way don't own million dollar homes or expensive automobiles so please don't throw rocks at everyone who displays a Florida license plate. Feel free to aim for the Mercedes and Lexus
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Old 12-08-2007, 06:54 PM
 
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Cool Agression is just as ugly as over-consumption.

Sometimes when I see or feel all of this hostility I think it just comes from a lack of understanding of all groups of people involved.

How can we blame all of those "rich" folks for something that they are not even aware of. I have moved into new states as a result of job transfers and would not have any idea if the 5 year old house we just bought in a new development was once someone's paradise, now destroyed? We would never blatantly want to ruin someone's native area.

I am sure that many of these planned communities that attract so many from out of state are populated with completely oblivious home-owners having their dream home built there. All they see is a deserted wooded area or a long-untilled piece of farm property. Unless they come on the forum to get the opinion of current residents, who may have come from someplace else themselves, they would have no idea of how they strike the ire of so many!

Progress to the area is going to happen. Everyone who like to see some controls in place so that E TN is not another once lovely place turned into a parking lot for luxury homes and cars. But, it really serves no good to HATE those who are now victims of the residents' tirades, the very ones who were lucky enough to get to TN before the new flavor of the month.

No one wants to ruin an area. It would degrade their own property values, affect their own quality of life, and not feel like home to them - ever.

We all just have to accept the change, hope that it is controlled, and try to set the example for neighborliness to the new ones. And, if they have no time for you, who cares? Their loss. We can all be better than that.
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Signal Mountain, Tennessee
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Gem - Well put. I think we all want to live, where we want to live. We only have so much time here on earth, and we need to enjoy every breath that we breath, every challenge, and every success. Work hard, exercise, and be nice. Respect the earth, love your family and friends, and be kind to strangers. Get back what you put out. Love thy neighbor.

Peace.
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:08 AM
 
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Consider this... if it were not for the rich people no one would have a job. Judge people for who they are and not what they have or do not have or the color of their skin.
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Old 12-09-2007, 12:00 PM
 
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Sometimes when I see or feel all of this hostility I think it just comes from a lack of understanding of all groups of people involved.
Somewhat, but there's more to it than that. As far as the people that are moving into my area........... I've had far more contact with them than most locals, many hundreds over the years. Since humans like to group things I usually mentally divide them into three groups which really have nothing to do with how much money they have. The first fit in well, at least as well as possible in an area where most people trace their roots back 6+ generations and I have heard the phrase "Her people weren't from here" used to describe someone whose grandparents moved here from somewhere else. They are usually people who have lived in a rural area before and know what they're looking for. Transplants from up and down the spine of the Appalachians mostly fit in this category. They are not the majority of people moving here. The second group has some mild to moderate misconceptions about the area involving jobs, schools, shopping, community, etc., etc. They usually abandon their idea of living here forever in the first couple of years but they aren't burning the house to leave either. It's OK, maybe a little better overall than where they moved from, maybe a little worse but not the magic they were hoping for. This group is the majority. The third group contains the problem transplants. They bought the developer's spiel, drank the kool-aid and attempted to move to a fantasy that only existed in their own minds. Then they somehow became trapped by their own financial machinations and land they can't sell for half what they have in it. They are also a minority but a very loud one that tries to make trouble for their local neighbors and stir up resentment among their fellow out of staters. And yes, I wish they had never come here, I wish they would leave, and any truth that I can lay out there to discourage more of their kind I consider a public service, 'cause they don't want to be here either. They just didn't know it until it was too late.

All of that being said, most of the local resentment is caused not by the transplants themselves but by things that developers do to try and attract wealthy people to buy their overpriced land. The gated subdivision thing is one of those that I personally find hilarious, especially on river subdivisions. FYI out of state people: thieves in Tennessee have bolt cutters, four wheelers and boats. A gate on the road into your subdivision isn't going to stop them if they want your stuff. It might slow down the volunteer fire department a bit if your house is on fire though. The things that cause true resentment are more specific and personal. Here's an example from my laundry list. At the entrance to the Hawk's Bluff subdivision in Van Buren county is a large earth berm with a little landscaping and a sign on it. The reason the berm was built is that behind it is an old guy living in an old silverstream trailer and the developers didn't want the people they were flying in to see his trailer at the entrance. So they piled up a mound of dirt on his property line higher than his home and stole his morning sun. Great way to reach out to the community there guys. And here, if you do something like that to one person it affects the opinion of their entire extended family. Which could be half the county. Doesn't take many random acts of callous disregard to create a lot of resentment.
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:01 PM
 
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Not everyone from Florida is as you described. Most of us who are heading your way don't own million dollar homes or expensive automobiles so please don't throw rocks at everyone who displays a Florida license plate. Feel free to aim for the Mercedes and Lexus
Feel free to aim for the Mercedes and Lexus? That wasn't very nice! Rock throwing can and has resulted in death here in Knoxville; and subsequent convictions (can't remember if it was manslaughter or homicide). If someone aims something at me or my car they will experience a whole 'nuther side of southern hospitality.
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:52 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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Feel free to aim for the Mercedes and Lexus? That wasn't very nice! Rock throwing can and has resulted in death here in Knoxville; and subsequent convictions (can't remember if it was manslaughter or homicide). If someone aims something at me or my car they will experience a whole 'nuther side of southern hospitality.
That happened up the road from me.
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:04 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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Somewhat, but there's more to it than that. As far as the people that are moving into my area........... I've had far more contact with them than most locals, many hundreds over the years. Since humans like to group things I usually mentally divide them into three groups which really have nothing to do with how much money they have. The first fit in well, at least as well as possible in an area where most people trace their roots back 6+ generations and I have heard the phrase "Her people weren't from here" used to describe someone whose grandparents moved here from somewhere else. They are usually people who have lived in a rural area before and know what they're looking for. Transplants from up and down the spine of the Appalachians mostly fit in this category. They are not the majority of people moving here. The second group has some mild to moderate misconceptions about the area involving jobs, schools, shopping, community, etc., etc. They usually abandon their idea of living here forever in the first couple of years but they aren't burning the house to leave either. It's OK, maybe a little better overall than where they moved from, maybe a little worse but not the magic they were hoping for. This group is the majority. The third group contains the problem transplants. They bought the developer's spiel, drank the kool-aid and attempted to move to a fantasy that only existed in their own minds. Then they somehow became trapped by their own financial machinations and land they can't sell for half what they have in it. They are also a minority but a very loud one that tries to make trouble for their local neighbors and stir up resentment among their fellow out of staters. And yes, I wish they had never come here, I wish they would leave, and any truth that I can lay out there to discourage more of their kind I consider a public service, 'cause they don't want to be here either. They just didn't know it until it was too late.

All of that being said, most of the local resentment is caused not by the transplants themselves but by things that developers do to try and attract wealthy people to buy their overpriced land. The gated subdivision thing is one of those that I personally find hilarious, especially on river subdivisions. FYI out of state people: thieves in Tennessee have bolt cutters, four wheelers and boats. A gate on the road into your subdivision isn't going to stop them if they want your stuff. It might slow down the volunteer fire department a bit if your house is on fire though. The things that cause true resentment are more specific and personal. Here's an example from my laundry list. At the entrance to the Hawk's Bluff subdivision in Van Buren county is a large earth berm with a little landscaping and a sign on it. The reason the berm was built is that behind it is an old guy living in an old silverstream trailer and the developers didn't want the people they were flying in to see his trailer at the entrance. So they piled up a mound of dirt on his property line higher than his home and stole his morning sun. Great way to reach out to the community there guys. And here, if you do something like that to one person it affects the opinion of their entire extended family. Which could be half the county. Doesn't take many random acts of callous disregard to create a lot of resentment.
I can't possibly imagine someone thinks that a gated community is more safe. I think it's more of a "we've finally made it, let's keep the riff-raff out" mind game.

Then again, most people don't seem that sharp...

Which brings me to your wonderful point about people moving in and expecting different things. No matter what you say, you're not going to change their minds.

The upside to that is there will be an awful lot of empty homes at great prices, especially the way the economy is going.

The downside is the landscape, as you knew it, is gone, blighted with the monstrosities.

What's going to happen when the uneducated people that bought the hard sales pitch decide that being out in the middle of nowhere really isn't for them?

I guess the guy in the silverstream could become a squatter, although I'm sure things were better before the weekend warriors showed up.
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:08 PM
 
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Talking I moved to Rogersville and I love it!!

The area is beautiful, and the people are beautiful!
Have met many people here and 99.9 % were willing to talk and were respectful.
I am in my glory!
I have always been big on respect and politeness.
Everyone here appreciates them too it seems. I love the phrase "I appreciate you." I am trying very hard to incorporate it into my speech.
I believe the person with the rude post was one of those who try to cause trouble.
I appreciate you all.
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