??? Tennessee Shells Out $46K For New Logo Featuring Letters TN

[An Einnseanair]

You people have no idea what it's like to do consulting work for a government bureaucracy or large corporation. The paperwork and hoops you have to jump through are mind-numbing. It is all but impossible for a basement-consultant to keep up with all the changes and demands.

If you had bid $500 on this project thinking you could spend 3 mins with MS Paint and be done you would have had to file bankruptcy before it was over.

I've been forced to sit through meetings where, if you added up the hourly billing rate of all the different people in the room, you would blow through $500 in 3 minutes or less (and the meeting lasted 2 hours, plus travel time, plus hotel rooms, plus expenses). And no, it wasn't my firm that was expensive. We're the ones who are often rewarded for how lean, fast, and efficient we are.

I still agree that $46,000 seems high, but it isn't too extreme.

[key2success]

Originally Posted by southernsmoke

Anything can be recreated in 3 minutes. If you already know what the end product is, that's easy. The hard part is coming up with it from scratch and making sure it makes everybody happy and doesn't pose any trademark issues.

coming up with that logo from scratch took time? lol

[jabogitlu]

Originally Posted by jwkilgore

You people have no idea what it's like to do consulting work for a government bureaucracy or large corporation. The paperwork and hoops you have to jump through are mind-numbing. It is all but impossible for a basement-consultant to keep up with all the changes and demands.

If you had bid $500 on this project thinking you could spend 3 mins with MS Paint and be done you would have had to file bankruptcy before it was over.

I've been forced to sit through meetings where, if you added up the hourly billing rate of all the different people in the room, you would blow through $500 in 3 minutes or less (and the meeting lasted 2 hours, plus travel time, plus hotel rooms, plus expenses). And no, it wasn't my firm that was expensive. We're the ones who are often rewarded for how lean, fast, and efficient we are.

I still agree that $46,000 seems high, but it isn't too extreme.

I'm surprised the state doesn't have a couple folks in house who could do all this. Just a few projects like this each year would pay salaries + benefits for two designers/researchers. And they could do content creation for DOT and all the other departments. Hmm...

[key2success]

Originally Posted by jabogitlu

I'm surprised the state doesn't have a couple folks in house who could do all this. Just a few projects like this each year would pay salaries + benefits for two designers/researchers. And they could do content creation for DOT and all the other departments. Hmm...

Actually , they do. Why they didnt use their in house "Graphic Designers"? Who knows
--> Logogate: Tennessee has 8 graphic artists on state payroll, records show
Tennessee officials paid a private firm $46,000 to create a new state logo despite the fact that the state has eight graphic artists and designers on the payroll at an annual cost of $293,000, state records show.
http://watchdog.org/221098/tennessee-5/

[Beretta]

Latest news.

Application for new TN state logo rejected | WJHL

[S4F]

can we get our money back?

[An Einnseanair]

If you think TN wasted money on a $35,000 logo, check this out:

http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slo...rand-statement
(Note: the survey is closed)

The Seattle Public Library paid significantly more (~10x) to give the public a choice of three logos, along with a name change.