Study Deems Tennessee 3rd Most Violent State in the USA (Memphis: crime rate, how much)

[rod5591]

#1 Louisiana, #2 is Alaska #3 is Tennessee according to this study,

https://247wallst.com/special-report...l-states-5/11/

"3. Tennessee
> Violent crime rate: 651.5 per 100,000 residents (3rd highest)
> Murder rate: 7.8 per 100,000 residents (9th highest)
> Incarceration rate: 429 per 100,000 residents (17th highest)
> 2018 unemployment: 3.5% (21st lowest)

Tennessee’s violent crime rate of 651.5 reported incidents per 100,000 people is the third highest among states, trailing only Alaska and New Mexico. The high rate of violence in the state is driven largely by incidents of aggravated assault. There were 482.9 aggravated assaults for every 100,000 people in the state in 2017, the third highest rate of any state and well above the national rate of 248.9 per 100,000.

As is often the case, violence is concentrated in urban areas in Tennessee. Roughly 86% of all violent crimes and 91% of murders were committed in metropolitan areas, though those same areas are home to just 77.6% of the state’s population."

[An Einnseanair]

These studies are all worthless.

In this specific case:

• Every state has different rules regarding crime reporting. Some states report multiple charges from the same incident as a single crime, while others report them all as independent crimes.
• States have different definitions of "aggravated assault". In some states it requires using a weapon or when it results in hospitalization. In TN all you have to do is simply display a weapon; simply attempt to strangle someone, even if you stop; commit any form of simple assault while under a court order; or commit simple assault against a public worker. Shove a meter maid? That's "aggravated assault" in Tennessee and will get you on that list.
• Different states have different rules regarding jail time for the same crime.

I'm not defending or criticizing TN's justice system or people who hurt other people; just pointing out that lists like this are ridiculous.

[rod5591]

I felt surprised by the results of the study, which was why i posted it. I feel you articulated well some of the problems with this particular study. Still, there is a need for information like this, to help people plan on retirement locations, etc. I wish there were rankings of states & crime that we could rely on.

[DubbleT]

Originally Posted by rod5591

I felt surprised by the results of the study, which was why i posted it. I feel you articulated well some of the problems with this particular study. Still, there is a need for information like this, to help people plan on retirement locations, etc. I wish there were rankings of states & crime that we could rely on.

I like researching things and as far as I can tell there is no single reliable source for comparing crime statistics across states. Comparing cities within a state is usually pretty straightforward though.
What I found most helpful when researching crime in a potential new city was to look at an actual crime map. For instance where I live now had a fairly high number of assaults reported. Looking at the crime map I noticed that the majority of assaults were mostly on a particular stretch of road with a lot of bars, in other words, bar fights. Since I don't frequent bars and wouldn't find myself in that area I found those particular statistics to be less frightening.

[doc1]

Originally Posted by rod5591

.......As is often the case, violence is concentrated in urban areas in Tennessee. Roughly 86% of all violent crimes and 91% of murders were committed in metropolitan areas, though those same areas are home to just 77.6% of the state’s population."

To that point I'll add this nationwide data. Rather interesting, IMO.

51% Of Murders In The U.S. Come From Just 2% Of The Counties

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ust-2-counties

[jchometeam]

Originally Posted by DubbleT

I like researching things and as far as I can tell there is no single reliable source for comparing crime statistics across states. Comparing cities within a state is usually pretty straightforward though.
What I found most helpful when researching crime in a potential new city was to look at an actual crime map. For instance where I live now had a fairly high number of assaults reported. Looking at the crime map I noticed that the majority of assaults were mostly on a particular stretch of road with a lot of bars, in other words, bar fights. Since I don't frequent bars and wouldn't find myself in that area I found those particular statistics to be less frightening.

Comparing cities within a state is not straightforward. The enforcement efforts are different, which impacts crime rates heavily. What the stats tell you is how many arrests were made. If a city police department does a good job and catches the crimes that occur in their cities, it makes their data look like the city is more dangerous. Also, the National Crime Victimization Survey shows that only about 45% of victims ever tell the police about violent crimes that occur to them. There is so many factors that play into that, including relationship between the police and public. So again, police departments that do a good job facilitate increased reporting, and make the public think that crime is higher in those areas.

The bottom line is that urban areas are going to have more violent crime than rural areas, and crime has declined over the past 25 years nationwide, with the exception of a handful of large cities. After that, any social scientist as well as the FBI will tell you that comparing crime statistics across jurisdictions is useless.

[DubbleT]

Originally Posted by jchometeam

Comparing cities within a state is not straightforward. The enforcement efforts are different, which impacts crime rates heavily. What the stats tell you is how many arrests were made. If a city police department does a good job and catches the crimes that occur in their cities, it makes their data look like the city is more dangerous. Also, the National Crime Victimization Survey shows that only about 45% of victims ever tell the police about violent crimes that occur to them. There is so many factors that play into that, including relationship between the police and public. So again, police departments that do a good job facilitate increased reporting, and make the public think that crime is higher in those areas.

The bottom line is that urban areas are going to have more violent crime than rural areas, and crime has declined over the past 25 years nationwide, with the exception of a handful of large cities. After that, any social scientist as well as the FBI will tell you that comparing crime statistics across jurisdictions is useless.

That's true, and it's a point I've recognized before. I guess I should have said that at least the reporting methods are the generally about same from city to city.
I know that here we have a year on record here where it appears we are meth city because the police made a concerted effort to find and take down a lot of the meth houses in the area. So I definitely agree that just looking at numbers alone can be very misleading.

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Conclusion? Avoid urban areas and don't use drugs or buy them. Situational awareness is learned. Listen to your gut. A well armed population, is a well mannered polite population.

... just sayin'

[JOinGA]

Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn

Conclusion? Avoid urban areas and don't use drugs or buy them. Situational awareness is learned. Listen to your gut. A well armed population, is a well mannered polite population.

... just sayin'

Google the term "road rage" under the News topic to test your theory about how "well-mannered" and safe carrying guns make people. https://www.google.com/search?biw=13....0.eX2nZu9R6Sc

[LauraC]

Some Crime Rates (Violent Crime (VC) and Property Crime (PC) for Tennessee- 2019)

The scale is 1 - 100 with 1 being the lowest crime and 100 being the most crime. For reference, the US crime Rate is 22.7 for violent crime and 35.4 for property crime. These are just town names I thought of off the top of my head.

Memphis VC: 85.7; PC: 81.1
Knoxville VC: 44.9; PC: 81.5
Chattanooga VC: 50.3; PC: 83
Nashville-Davidson VC: 54.6; PC 53.3

Oak Ridge VC: 23.0; PC: 28.9
Maryville VC: 12.1; PC: 34.9
Kingston VC: 16.3; PC: 27.6
Sevierville VC: 23.1; PC: 71.3
Morristown VC: 35.2; PC: 70.3
Johnson City VC: 27.2; PC: 54.5
Bristol VC: 23.9; PC: 50.1
Franklin VC: 11.9; PC: 23.3
Clinton VC: 30.6; VC: 57.8
Murfreesboro VC: 24.4; PC: 46.8
Crossville VC: 48.2; PC: 95.1
Cookeville VC: 19.9; PC: 63.8

I can't give you a link to the page where you can look up your own towns because it's a competitor of City Data and the moderator will delete it. Do a "city compare" search and you'll find it.

You should know tourist towns tend to have higher crime rates because it's calculated number of crimes to permanent residents population. Some tourist towns can swell to 4x their population in the tourist season and those visitors aren't counted but their crimes are counted making the rate higher.

You also have no idea how much the of violent crime is domestic violence. Not that domestic violence shouldn't be counted but if a high violent crime rate has a lot of domestic violence in that number, that doesn't usually impact other random people in the town.