08-04-2020, 07:55 AM
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Would prefer no or little snow and not hotter than 90s in the summer.
You might want to research what it can be like when it is in the 90's here. It is not a dry heat like where you are. With the higher humidity, 90's can be miserable if you are not use to it. Heck, it is even if you are.
08-04-2020, 09:42 AM
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Thank you all for the information, it's so helpful! I've found out more through this one post than through days of researching online on my own.
08-04-2020, 11:18 AM
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Hi!
We are looking to relocate to TN and are doing the research but nothing better than asking people who live there. We have a toddler and my in-laws who will be coming with us. Here are our criteria:
1. Pleasant climate: no harsh winters, sunny, summers not crazy hot
2. A growing city of 100,000+ min population
3. Business-friendly
4. Outdoors to explore
5. NO alligators please (I know they rarely attack humans, I just want to be completely comfortable around water and not have to think about it)
6. Is there a place that is tornado-safe?
7. Am I asking for too much?
Thank you in advance for your ideas!
#1 is a tough one. We moved to Knoxville in October of 1994 from SoCal. We picked Knoxville because of the mild winters. When we visited Knoxville for our exploratory trip, we did it in July so we could see just how hot and humid it was, and if we could tolerate it.
So our first winter here 1995 was a huge snow storm. We were snowed into our subdivision for a week. Icy roads, the works. I thought to myself that we had made a HUGE mistake, and my definition of mild was unlike anyone else's.
Well, it took about 20 years or so to have a repeat of that winter.
Typically it will snow, but its gone within a day.
The summer humidity can be a killer, especially if you are doing stuff outside.
#2 Like others have said, thats going to limit you to the 4-5 major metropolitan areas of the State.
#3 Not sure what you mean. There are some major corporations that have facilities in TN.
#4 Most of the State has something to offer. Knoxville has the SMNP.
#5 Only in zoos.
#6 While there certainly have been a few tornados, its not like the midwest. Its pretty tornado safe here.
#7 Asking too much is when someone wants a lake front property of several acres, with a log cabin, not in a sub division (no regulations), in the mountains, close to shopping, but away from the City, with good schools, a safe area, where their political/religious/social views are the same as the neighbors (but neighbors are not too close), close to xxxx (whatever business is their favorite where they currently live, but are not in Tennessee), and all this for less than $100K. THATS asking too much.
I suggest after you narrow it down a bit, to come and spend a week or so visiting the area.
08-04-2020, 11:40 AM
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Thanks so much! It's good to hear a perspective of a SoCal transplant. We've been actually looking at Knoxville. You moved and stayed and didn't return here so Knoxville must have more pros than cons over CA? It regularly gets to 98 degrees when we live now and sometimes into the 100s, but it's dry heat so I really wonder what difference the humidity makes. You're right, we won't know until we go. #3 What I mean is taxes and general attitude of the state towards business owners. You might think I'm exaggerating but in CA, if you have even a small business or own property, you are an evil capitalist and need to punished. I wish I was joking
#7 Not asking for that!
We are reasonable people who understand life is full of trade-offs. We'd be looking for a house, doesn't need to be bigger than 2,000 sf with a 1/2 acre lot min in a safe, clean neighborhood with access to schools, activities for children and general stores. Doesn't need to be by water. Hopefully not too far from some nice hiking.
08-04-2020, 04:14 PM
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Thanks so much! It's good to hear a perspective of a SoCal transplant. We've been actually looking at Knoxville. You moved and stayed and didn't return here so Knoxville must have more pros than cons over CA? It regularly gets to 98 degrees when we live now and sometimes into the 100s, but it's dry heat so I really wonder what difference the humidity makes. You're right, we won't know until we go. #3 What I mean is taxes and general attitude of the state towards business owners. You might think I'm exaggerating but in CA, if you have even a small business or own property, you are an evil capitalist and need to punished. I wish I was joking
#7 Not asking for that!
We are reasonable people who understand life is full of trade-offs. We'd be looking for a house, doesn't need to be bigger than 2,000 sf with a 1/2 acre lot min in a safe, clean neighborhood with access to schools, activities for children and general stores. Doesn't need to be by water. Hopefully not too far from some nice hiking.
Knoxville is a nice area and freeway close to other States and the Gulf and the east Coast if you want some beach. Live close to the Smokies and tornadoes will be a non issue as the hills and valleys brake them up. Try Seymour, Sevierville or similar as they are short drive to downtown Knoxville.
Nashville is also nice but more traffic and further from beaches for a quick vacation.
08-04-2020, 04:28 PM
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You might want to research what it can be like when it is in the 90's here. It is not a dry heat like where you are. With the higher humidity, 90's can be miserable if you are not use to it. Heck, it is even if you are.
I hear you and there is probably no way to research it in theory without experiencing it. And you're right, we have dry heat here and it's manageable. So that's a bit discouraging to hear from the locals that the humidity is such a bother. I'm very much an outdoors person so I'd hate to be limited to staying in the house in the summer
08-04-2020, 04:50 PM
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Nashville is also nice but more traffic and further from beaches for a quick vacation.
The closest beach to Knoxville is Folly Beach SC which is 6 hours from Knoxville. The closest beach to Nashville is Pensacola FL which is 6.5 hours away. Not much difference.
In addition, the Nashville airport is
much better for a quick vacation with nonstop flights to the following beach destinations:
Burbank CA
Cancun, Mexico (5 airlines)
Charleston SC
Cozumel, Mexico
Destin FL
Ft Lauderdale FL (3 airlines)
Ft Myers FL (3 airlines)
Grand Bahamas
Gulfport MS
Jacksonville FL
Los Angeles CA (5 airlines)
Miami FL (2 airlines)
Montego Bay, Jamaica
Myrtle Beach SC
Orange County CA
Panama City FL
Pensacola FL
Punta Cana, Dominican Republic
Punta Gorda FL
San Diego CA
Sarasota FL
San Juan PR
Savannah GA
St Petersburg FL
Tampa FL (3 airlines)
And while not typically thought of as beach destinations, there are flights to three other California airports: Oakland, San Jose, and San Francisco (2 airlines).
Here are the beach destinations from Knoxville's airport:
Destin FL
Ft Lauderdale FL
Miami FL
Myrtle Beach SC
Punta Gorda FL
Sarasota FL
St Petersburg FL
West Palm Beach FL
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08-04-2020, 04:55 PM
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We are in the 90’s much of the summer. What adds to the misery is the high humidity and high dew points.
I lived in SoCal’s Low Desert area five years with my horses. 106 arid/dry degrees in SoCal is like sticking ones head ina 350 degree oven.
90+ degrees in Tennessee with a dew point of 63 and 80+ percent humidity (a feels like of ~101) is like an all day sauna if you’re only outside a couple of hours. And your clothes are soaked as if someone turned the water hose on you. <——-perspective from someone who is outside all the time.
Also, don’t buy a house without AC. I’ve been retired here for 17 years. The summers weren’t near as “Louisiana-style humid” 17 years ago, as they are now. Still-in-all, I’m not comin’ off this hill for anything
08-05-2020, 10:26 AM
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I hear you and there is probably no way to research it in theory without experiencing it. And you're right, we have dry heat here and it's manageable. So that's a bit discouraging to hear from the locals that the humidity is such a bother. I'm very much an outdoors person so I'd hate to be limited to staying in the house in the summer
I lived in the SoCal area for almost 40 years, and a lot of the time in the high desert, so I know what you are thinking. Best weather is along the coast, and gets "worse" as you go inland. Every place has "intolerable" weather, depending on the person. Yes it gets sticky here in the summer, but depending on where you are, at night it is pleasant. I live near Cookeville, it has been in the mid 60's at night for the last several days. Windows in the house wide open and fans going until about 9am.
Obviously, the only way for you to know is visit during the summer. The humidity really doesn't stop anyone here, or you just arrange for doing stuff more for the morning or night.
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If you're looking in Tennessee, Murfreesboro and Cookeville, followed by Chattanooga are probably the best mix of what you're looking for. Here's the thing, I wouldn't necessarily stick with a requirement of 100,000 city. The reason is there are a lot of smaller cities with excellent quality of life that are within a very short drive of Nashville, Chattanooga, or Knoxville. Probably the biggest issues from your list is most anywhere west of the mountains will experience tornadoes and summer heat/humidity in the 90s.
One place to consider is Asheville NC. It seems to check a lot of your boxes.
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Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)