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Old 06-05-2008, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I didnt think so at the time. I was sweating bullets, but did manage to finish the counts. That was a summer I spent in Misissippi when I was a student. There are lots of creepy crawlies there. I admire your appriciation of snakes. Ive known only 2 people that share your enthuasim. I prefer critters with fur.
Im sure you were a bit on-edge, as most people would be. But if you really knew the snakes and knew you were in 100% safety, you might have really enjoyed the spectacle.

As for my enthuisiasm? Thanks! Youre correct! I mainly research and keep scorpions and other venomous invertebrates, but I do love my snakes. There are TONS of enthuisiasts abroad, you can find them on Field Herp Forum, VenomousReptiles.org Home - The SHHS is Venomous Snake Headquarters, The Venomlist - For All Things Venomous, Arachnoboards - Powered by vBulletin, etc.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I stand by my original statement, that is, that an overly-casual attitude towards snakes can lead to serious consequences. The issue is not with people who are familiar with snakes (although serious problems arise even there occasionally) but to view snakes in the same category as birds, rabbits, etc. is foolish.

Snakes are stealthy and can be difficult or impossible to see and despite precautions we may come in contact with them. Most are essentially harmless; some are venomous enough to seriously threaten us. People who are familiar with mushrooms hunt and eat them but mis-identification leads sometimes to tragedy. So, too, it is with snakes; I don't fear snakes but I respect them and leave them alone. Those who wish to interact with them are free to do so. I won't.
Well, I definitely respect your approach and opinion. However, any animal can inflict a serious bite, even pets, regardless if theyre rabbits, dogs, cats, etc. Snakes are no different in that aspect. Yes, some are venomous and can inflict a lot of damage to your body, but the number of people who die in the USA vs the number who are bit creates a huuuuuge gap. More people probably die from dog attacks and being kicked by horses than die from snakebite annually in the USA. Dont quote me on that though.
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Old 06-05-2008, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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It was an embarrassment on many fronts (so to speak) lol!

But it made me mad that it propagates snake hysteria. I hate that.

I even find on animal planet sometimes they go out of their way to feed the fear. It's such BS.
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:09 PM
 
Location: West Knoxville
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Default Tn Snakes

There are only three venomous snakes in Tn. The Timber rattlesnake, Copperhead, and the Cottonmouth. East Tn. only has two of the three and they are the Timber rattlesnake and the copperhead. The Cottonmouth is in West Tn. all the way to Nashville. If you make a lot of noise when walking they will be gone most of the times before you see them. The Timber rattlesnake's venom is called Hemotoxin and the Copperhead & Cottonmouth both have Nerotoxim. (Fatalities are rare) The Nerotoxin is far less damaging.
Give them room and they will get out of the way.
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Kingsport, TN
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There are only three venomous snakes in Tn. The Timber rattlesnake, Copperhead, and the Cottonmouth.
Though quite rare, pygmy rattlers are also found in W. TN, especially up around Kentucky Lake.
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co. TN
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haha

Does that mean I get to leave work? Paid?
It alright with me. Im on my way out, but Im done.


Ive had a horse and a dog bit by snakes, but ive never had my dogs bite or horses kick a snake.LOL.
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:34 PM
 
Location: On the plateau, TN
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[quote=2mares;3999686]

I think they call it dog days that snake will strike at anything that moves.




I'm sure all animals will have a bad hair-day at times, heck even a hoop snake rolling down the hill might hit a speed bump or tree......
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:43 PM
 
Location: florida
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Default oh my goodness..

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Thats kinda ridiculous, dont you think? First off, if you dont explain to people and show them how nice some of them are, they'll just take on the mindset that most dumb Americans do, and thats the KILL!KILL!KILL! mindset. Snakes are probably the most persecuted animal on earth, and by a long shot. Why? Because most people dont know a damn thing about them, mainly due to lack of education.

Yes, some non-venomous species can deliver painful bites, BUT WHAT ANIMAL DOESNT?!?! If youre going by that logic, you better train your kids to never pet a doggie, because one day they might approach a pitbull one day and get mauled to death, which is becoming a common occurance it seems. Even worse is when dogs like pitbulls or rottweilers attack out of nowhere, completely unprovoked. You see, snakes wont do that, they only bite when provoked. I spend A LOT of time looking for snakes and I can tell you that they would rather be left alone. And the bites they deliver (non-venomous species) are far less harmful than any cat or dog bite. Heck, theyre even less destructive than a good hamster bite. Ive handled a lot of snakes in my lifetime, know how many times Ive been bit? Not once. Once the snake realizes youre not a threat, they could care less. Ive been musked to the point where my wife has gagged, but not one single bite. And if you dont educate people about harmless/harmful snakes, harmless garters, browns, kings, corns, watersnakes, etc, get hacked to death simply out of stupidity.

And many instructors who bring out snakes to educate people with will most certainly tell the kids (even adults) that they still should not pick up snakes, and that they are professionals who can easily tell the difference. If some kid wants to pretend he's Steve Irwin (RIP) and rush out and try and handle snakes, thats his own prerogative. Cant say we didnt warn him.

Some of my many snake adventures:

Queen snake (Warrenville, IL)--Regina septemvittata:



Brown snake--Storeria dekayi:


Baby brown snake:



Redbelly snake:


Desert kingsnake:


Northern water snake-- Nerodia sipedon:




Neonate copperhead-- Agkistrodon contortrix:


Milksnake (Missouri specimen):


California kingsnake -- Lampropeltis getula californiae:


Snakes are wonderful creatures, very misunderstood, sadly persecuted. If people really got to know about snakes, they wouldnt fear them and might actually have some sympathy towards them. Many of them make wonderful pets, and are more docile than any bird/cat/dog, no joke.
beautiful yes..but I like looking at them in photos.. ONLY
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Old 06-05-2008, 07:45 PM
 
Location: florida
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Default oh gosh

I didnt think quoting you would result in reposting all of your pictures...btw, that piece of meat one of them is eating wouldnt be your finger, would it?
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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Nope, that would be a "pinkie" but not the finger type...it's a newborn baby mouse.
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