11-25-2009, 11:08 PM
Location: Tennessee
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I don't know that there is one answer to a question such as this (Nashville vs. Knoxville as a sports town); a lot depends on what criteria someone is using (fan interest vs. variety, pro sports vs. college level, national interest vs. regional interest, etc). Here on this forum most of us are generally biased toward our own region of the state anyway.
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11-26-2009, 06:01 AM
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The list generally defines sports teams by viewing area/market. It's not like the Jets, Giants, or Nets added (or subtracted) from East Rutherford, NJ's ranking.
Nashville's AAA baseball team actually plays in Nashville. Knoxville's AA baseball team plays in a different county and is not included in this survey. Note that Kodak is listed separately from Knoxville.
Nashville's NHL franchise may average only 14,000 per game, but that's still 400% more than Knoxville's minor league hockey franchise. Nashville's hockey arena is about 82% filled, Knoxville's is about 50% filled.
Nashville has a
lot more options for those who want to watch sports than Knoxville. Knoxville has one NCAA football team, Nashville has two. Knoxville has one NCAA basketball team, Nashville has four. Nashville has the gigantic Centennial Sportsplex, Knoxville has nothing comparable. For baseball, Knoxville has just one option, UT. Nashville has 5: AAA baseball and four NCAA baseball programs.
If we want to say "well Knoxville's AA baseball team is just one county away" then we have to give Nashville the same courtesy and say "well another NCAA Division 1 school (MTSU) is just one county away" in which case Nashville comes out ahead again.
I love U.T. as much as the next guy and go to as many games as I can. I was sitting above the south end zone on Saturday screaming hysterically as Wes Brown intercepted a Vandy pass and returned it for a spectacular touchdown. But Knoxville hosts just 6 football games a year. Nashville has 23-24 (8 NFL games, 6 Vandy games, 6 TSU games, 1 NCAA bowl game, and 2-3 NFL preseason games).
There is absolutely no way that Knoxville is a bigger sports town than Nashville.
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11-26-2009, 06:20 AM
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I will point out one tiny little things since UT has been mentioned so much. It is the University of TENNESSEE, not the University of Knoxville. There are probably as many UT fans in Middle Tennessee as there are in East Tennessee; and many people make the drive over to go to games, especially football games.
EXCELLENT point.
11-26-2009, 07:08 AM
Location: Putnam County, TN
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I have to agree that the fan support for University of Tennessee is AWESOME and everywhere I go in Tennesee I see alot of Orange. More so than I see support for the Titans.
I bought a UT T-Shirt while traveling through the area in October and made the mistake of wearing it in the Atlanta Airport the day that UT played Georgia. A couple of smiles from UT Fans, but when I walked into the terminal lounge to watch the game, the Georgia fans actually commented that I shouldn't be in there wearing my T-shirt.
11-26-2009, 08:03 AM
Location: The Conterminous United States
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I have to agree that the fan support for University of Tennessee is AWESOME and everywhere I go in Tennesee I see alot of Orange. More so than I see support for the Titans.
I bought a UT T-Shirt while traveling through the area in October and made the mistake of wearing it in the Atlanta Airport the day that UT played Georgia. A couple of smiles from UT Fans, but when I walked into the terminal lounge to watch the game,
the Georgia fans actually commented that I shouldn't be in there wearing my T-shirt .
That's why I like this state. A Tennessean would never do that.
I don't care for sports so I guess I didn't contribute much to Boston being the number one sports city. In my opinion: Big deal.
What made me an loyal Vols fan was there unbridled enthusiasm couple with their sportsmanship. The classiest fans in the country.
11-27-2009, 09:07 PM
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Nashville's AAA baseball team actually plays in Nashville. Knoxville's AA baseball team plays in a different county and is not included in this survey.
That aside it's still a very strong example. Disregarding Kodak not being grouped with Knoxville (which is completely contradictory to their other "rankings"), it's pretty telling that the attendance numbers are so close when one team plays in the center of a large metroplex and the other in a tourist trap 25 miles east of Knoxville
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Note that Kodak is listed separately from Knoxville.
Further proof that the list is crap and the formula is completely faulty. There has to be no reason behind that. So Arlington, TX, which sports the largest professional football stadium in the world and a major league baseball stadium doesn't even make the list (probably got grouped in with Dallas-Fort Worth) yet Kodak does? I'm not saying that Kodak, TN is a suburb of Knoxville to the same degree that Arlington is to DFW, but come on, it's a city of over 300k and is the same distance from the those two cities as Kodak is from Knoxville.
11-28-2009, 07:29 AM
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That aside it's still a very strong example. Disregarding Kodak not being grouped with Knoxville (which is completely contradictory to their other "rankings"), it's pretty telling that the attendance numbers are so close when one team plays in the center of a large metroplex and the other in a tourist trap 25 miles east of Knoxville
Kodak is not part of the Knoxville MSA (which is strange). Arlington TX is part fo the DFW MSA. That could be why Arlington is included with Dallas in these rankings while Kodak isn't included with Knoxville.
At any rate, Nashville desperately needs a new baseball stadium. Greer Stadium is an embarrassment and is located in a dank, dark hole that's not easy to find. If it were built today it would not meet AAA baseball standards, not by a long stretch. Even Jackson TN has a nicer minor league stadium. The fact that over 300,000 people brave getting tetanus in a decrepit and crumbling stadium isn't too bad. And it's still more than the Smokies' shining wonderhouse attracts even though the Smokies' stadium is adjacent to the interstate, next door to Bass Pro, and in the middle of a wildly popular tourist area.
11-28-2009, 09:04 AM
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Good points.
11-29-2009, 06:45 PM
Location: Cookeville,TN
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Kodak is not part of the Knoxville MSA (which is strange). Arlington TX is part fo the DFW MSA. That could be why Arlington is included with Dallas in these rankings while Kodak isn't included with Knoxville.
Chattanooga Lookouts used to have about the same situation but their new downtown stadium is great and right in the middle of everything.
I was really hopeful when they came out with some drawings a year or so ago of a new Sounds stadium on the river downtown, with or without the hotel and the marina etc...
But so far can't get the financing without taxpayer funding and I don't blame the citizens of Nashville for not wanting to foot the bill for another stadium.
Maybe someday...
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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